Tol-in-Gaurhoth XVII: The Saga Continues to Continue quite Continuously

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Too bad Cailín was already dead when malkatoj declared herself. Since the Ranger and the Hunter can communicate, they could have distracted the Werewolves's efforts to kill the Seer by making the Hunter declare himself as the Ranger.

Comments on that?

Speaking of, I was louder than Cailín! That's bound never to happen again, though.

[Cailín]

Wow! For once I have been on the winning side! Great game, everyone - especially Malkatoj did an excellent job as the Seer.

Mormegil, I have been wondering for quite some time... how did you know I was Gifted? I did not intentionally leave any clues. Well, I don't like you anyway. Though it was probably for the best that I died then, because I was so convinced of the guy who be furry's innocence. Even worse, because he attacked Morm so violently I was actually convinced he was the Seer and had dreamed about Morm. I could not think of another reason why he would protect me like that. Ha - I'm so easily deluded.

Are you perhaps implying, Nilp, that you have merely killed me to be louder than me for once, huh?

I enjoyed PMing with you too Glirdy, though it didn't always work out. I actually spent most of the Days desperately trying to convince Glirdan Saucepan Man was in fact innocent... and then he eventually got me killed. The irony of being the Ranger...

Anyway - I protected Shelob, Saucy and TGWBS. Sorry about the last one.

[Garin]

Sauce: Oh, I know what I meant to ask. Wolves, did you spot Glirdan as the Hunter after Cailin's revelation?

TGBWS figured out Glirdan was the hunter and I accepted his reasoning. He was also right about Malk. Before he died, however, we still thought Form was the cobbler.
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Valier: Aha!!! I knew you were a wolf Garin!! Sorry but I guess I will always suspect you....We should call a truse (sp.?) So was it you who got me killed?

Well, we all agreed to kill you. It, of course, had to pass by me because you had voted for me. I was willing to accept the flack. I figured, I'm so used to appearing lupine that appearing so obviously a wolf- people would figure I couldn't be a wolf. It almost worked. I was willing to stick out my neck to help the other wolves. Unfortunately, I didn't expect to be the last one. I accept your truce, we seem always at odds.

Naria, I now see that The Guy knew what he was doing. I think your silence killed you off. I did enjoy some of our PMs. It is not easy being a wolf.

[Lhunardawen]

Originally Posted by Nilp

morm--I didn't think you were a Cobbler until Lhuna told me her suspicions.

I felt that after having played with him in all but one game - not to mention falsely accusing him almost twice - I should have learned something...

And somehow I felt that Formendaga would do a better job than that were he the cobbler. Right?

tgwbw's no longer under the curse...it's you alone now, Nilp.

And Garin, geesh, how I envy you. Two out of three?

[Formendacil]

Originally Posted by Lhunardawen

And somehow I felt that Formendaga would do a better job than that were he the cobbler. Right?

Of course not. I wasn't lying in the slightest when I said:

"I'm somewhat insulted that some of you seem to think me a Cobbler. Seriously, do you honestly think I'd be such a blatantly obvious Cobbler? Give me some credit people! I may not be a genius, but I have some skill in this game... If I were being a Cobbler, I'd be as quiet, normal, and devious as I could be. And you have my full and explicit permission to drag up that quote against me in any future game."

And I stand by that...

[Garin]

Well, I'm currently repped-out. More to come.
And I almost forgot-- Accolades to Sauce for noting in my profile that I play poker. In retrospect I best get rid of that fact. It basically answers... Is Garin capable of bluffing?
Well, yes he is...

[The Saucepan Man]

Originally Posted by Glirdan

Was I that blantantly obvious?? I thought I was doing a pretty good job, but, now, when I think about it, that post where I put down whom I thought was innocent was probably rather obvious.

Again, it wasn't down to anything that you did wrong. But so many people had accused and/or voted for Cailin that, crossing them and those who she had accused/voted for off and looking at those who had defended her/she had defended, there was really only a small pool to choose from (namely you and TGWBS).

Originally Posted by Glirdan

TGWBS, you had me going thinking you were the Seer for the longest time.

Yes, I had the guy who be cunning down as one of my candidates for Seer too. I didn't spot malka at all, even after she suddenly changed from wanting me dead to thinking me innocent. You see, rightly or wrongly, I work on the assumption that the Seer will dream of me early on and look for those who seem to think me innocent in the early stages. I suspect that a big dose of hubris is in order.

Originally Posted by Glirdan

I was wondering the exact same thing. Do tell. I was wondering when the heck I was going to be attacked because I had a feeling that after Cailin's death, I was a sure gonner.

It is always dangerous for the Wolves to attack the Hunter, especially with so many other known innocents, so I would guess that they thought that it was safer to go for one of those that couldn't harm them. The Hunter is an interesting role because, once declared, you become a known innocent who the Wolves are reluctant to kill. But then you don't get to use your special power.

Originally Posted by Aiwendil

Thanks. Saucepan's was post 107.

That's the one. I ddn't spot Nilp's message until Day 2 but, when I did, I really could not resist responding in kind. And it proved effective, since Nilp and I pretty much trusted each other from there on in.

Originally Posted by Garin

I figured, I'm so used to appearing lupine that appearing so obviously a wolf- people would figure I couldn't be a wolf. It almost worked.

Yup. You had me fooled for most of the game.

Originally Posted by Formendacil

So, in the interests of not ever finding myself in a similar rut, it was my intention to change up my playing style... Don't be predictable- that's my advice if you want to fool me completely.

I try. I really do. I tell myself that I am not going to post so frequently and at such length. And then I just get into the game and it happens.

Originally Posted by Lhuna

And Garin, geesh, how I envy you. Two out of three?

Tell me about it. I am convinced that I am destined never to be a Wolf. In fact, I am so used to playing a Villager now that I will probably make a dreadful Wolf as and when it does happen ...

Originally Posted by Formendacil

Of course not. I wasn't lying in the slightest when I said ...

Indeed. I took your comments that you would be playing very differently were you a Wolf or the Cobbler at face value, so I had pretty much crossed you off my suspect list even before malka's declaration.

Originally Posted by Garin

Accolades to Sauce for noting in my profile that I play poker.

I cannot take too much credit there. You pointed to it yourself during the game.

[WaynetheGoblin]

i will give you all one guees at why i voted for my self.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Here's Bethiril.

And here's Narvi.

Hehe, good times.

Oh, and a final note: This is the only game so far where I felt I was actually useful. Not exactly smart, but at least useful. Thanks, guys.

[The Saucepan Man]

Originally Posted by mormegil

SpM what made you convinced of my cobblerishness?

I posted earlier:

Originally Posted by me

Once we got down to the double lynching discussions it became clear to me that morm was the Cobbler. An innocent morm would have been taking control, putting forward plans and generally being much more vocal.

To expand a bit, I found it strange that you rejected the idea of a double lynch on the day that malka exposed TGWBS. You are normally up for a good double lynch and, as spawn's analysis showed, it would have been to the innocents' advantage. Then, the next day, when we were all basically agreed on a double lynch, you just sat back and let me do all the orchestrating (or try to ), which was most un-morm-like. I would have expected you to be doing a lot more organising. By that stage, I was pretty sure that you were the Cobbler, although it was not long before you confirmed it.

[Garin]

Now I have a question for TGWBS and Garin: If you guys were positive that I was the Hunter, why didn't you kill me then?? Is it because you thought that Malka was the Seer? Because that wouln't really make sense if you knew with certainity that I was the Hunter and instead of taking two innocents (one Gifted) down in one blow you chose to take down Malka

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It is really a case of paranoia. In the beginning The Guy said I was doomed, I didn't expect to last. I was saved by the double-bluffing and then that filthy little Malkatoj showed up. I was resigned to being the wolf for the sake of the other wolves. I was certain that you (Glirdan) would pick me especially after we killed Cailin. We needed to take the seer out, once we discovered her identity. Trust me, I wanted to kill Glirdan instantly, upon discovery. But, I wanted to kill everyone.
I respected TGBWS 's propositions and deeply regret following more of a road of vengeance than reason. Of course, I think I am born more wolvish than innocent, so those are aspects of my character I need to examine and refine.

[the guy who be short]

In response to Glirdan:

I only figured out, with certainty, that you were the Hunter on Day 4. At Night 5, we wolves didn't have much time to discuss anything due to RL situations, so we took out Marco, thinking she was the Seer.

After that, Night 6, The Seer was the obvious target.

And, after that, Garin feared you would take him with you.

[Meneltarmacil]

Had the wolves attacked Glirdan on the Night that he and Cailín were protecting/hunting SpM, the following would happen.

1. Glirdan tries to kill Saucepan.
2. Cailín fights off Glirdan.
3. Wolves kill Glirdan.

I was hoping the wolves killed Glirdy that Night, as I'd have had fun writing the death scene.

Actually...

Glirdan looked around to make sure he wasn't going to be followed. He crept up to the house of the villager that he was hunting and drew his bow.

Just as he was about to shoot the villager, a masked figure dressed all in black lept from the roof and landed on him, knocking him to the ground.

"You!" shouted Glirdan. "This villager is a wolf! Get out of my way!"

The masked figure refused to move. "I'm not letting you kill an innocent tonight," said the Ranger.

As Glirdan stood wondering what to do next, three shadows bolted out of nowhere. Whether or not one of them had been the hunted/protected villager was impossible to tell. Glirdan tried to fire an arrow, but it all happened so fast. The wolves hauled the Hunter off into the woods, where they devoured him.

[Glirdan]

Ooooo!!!! How pleasently evil of you!! Now I wish they would have killed me that Night!! Btw Cailin, thanks for standing by while I get devoured!

Thank you Wolves for answering me. It makes complete sense now. Thank you!!

[Garin]

If only you had killed Malka that night. I find it interesting that you didn't suspect me as the seer. I wish that you had and things might have gone differently too.

Why would we think you were the seer Morm?
You seemed an Ordo from the beginning, as did Sauce. Once again I must applaud Malkatoj for her bravery. If The Guy and I had more time to discuss things.... the outcome would be so different.
I view this as such an awful defeat.
EDIT: Falls upon sword.