Public Research: Race - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

the guy who be short · 01-31-2006, 11:38 AM

Being entirely of Indian descent, I feel a little wary about classifying myself as "White," seeing as I am, quite clearly, not. I am a curious light reddish-brown colour. If we presume "White" to mean "Caucasian" then I will vote so; if not, I will vote for Asian (Other).

I await Heren's response.

HerenIstarion · 01-31-2006, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by TGWBS

I await Heren's response

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Originally Posted by HerenIstarion

The reseach is based on self-identification

Pick both

JennyHallu · 01-31-2006, 11:53 AM

Sorry, Heren...

Honestly, I didn't mean to criticize the demarcations you laid out. I was merely pontificating (i like that word

) on how racial/cultural differences could be classified, if one wished to, and felt like getting nitty-gritty. Personally I'm one of those that annoy census people by skipping the question.

Lalwendë · 01-31-2006, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Heren

Conclusion - the thread is not about what you 'want', it's about what I asks, and asks nicely, and even begs, if you please

You are certainly brave in setting up this poll. I once had to set up an Equal Opps monitoring system and called in an expert to help me with categories (very important as it was for public use by an organisation). We concluded that the safest option was simply to ask people to write in what they considered their 'race' (or ethnic origin as it tends to be called here) to be!

I think I know where tgwbs may have got stuck, as 'Asian' in the UK usually means Indian/Pakistani origin, whereas in most other countries it means Chinese/Pacific Rim.

Anyway, what's the next poll? I'm finding these interesting!

Roa_Aoife · 01-31-2006, 01:33 PM

Celtic and Germanic peoples are not the same group. In fact, as far back as archeology can determine they existed, the Germanic Tribes and Celtic Tribes were bitter enemies. Celtic peoples included the Gauls, Gaels, Franks, and Britons, while the Germanic peoples included the Angles, Saxons, Normans, and Goths. The language tree is entirely different- just compare English to Gaelic and you'll see the differences.

JennyHallu · 01-31-2006, 01:36 PM

*bows to superior knowledge* I stand corrected on celtic/germanic. But Gallic and Frankish languages are purely Italic...Must do research. Sometimes I wish I weren't curious.

(You'd think I'd know this...I'm a direct descendant Highland Scot, and my husband is maybe 3rd gen Irish-American (But not Celtic))

Anguirel · 01-31-2006, 01:55 PM

It's sometimes called the Gael/Gall divide. As best summed up by TH White...

View Poll Results: What Race do you belong to? (Pick one or many as is applicable)
American Indian or Alaska Native	3	5.56%
Asian (Chinese)	0	0%
Asian (Filipino)	2	3.70%
Asian (Japanese)	0	0%
Asian (Korean)	0	0%
Asian (Other)	2	3.70%
Black/African American	0	0%
Hispanic	0	0%
Other Pacific Islander/Australian Native	0	0%
White	52	96.30%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 54. You may not vote on this poll

01-31-2006, 11:38 AM	#1
the guy who be short Shadowed Prince Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Thulcandra Posts: 2,343	Being entirely of Indian descent, I feel a little wary about classifying myself as "White," seeing as I am, quite clearly, not. I am a curious light reddish-brown colour. If we presume "White" to mean "Caucasian" then I will vote so; if not, I will vote for Asian (Other). I await Heren's response. Last edited by the guy who be short; 01-31-2006 at 12:33 PM.

01-31-2006, 01:33 PM	#5
Roa_Aoife Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Someday, I'll rule all of it. Posts: 1,696	Celtic and Germanic peoples are not the same group. In fact, as far back as archeology can determine they existed, the Germanic Tribes and Celtic Tribes were bitter enemies. Celtic peoples included the Gauls, Gaels, Franks, and Britons, while the Germanic peoples included the Angles, Saxons, Normans, and Goths. The language tree is entirely different- just compare English to Gaelic and you'll see the differences. __________________ We can't all be Roas* when it comes to analysing...* -Lommy I didn't say you're evil, Roa, I said you're exasperating. -Nerwen

01-31-2006, 01:55 PM	#7
Anguirel Byronic Brand Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The 1590s Posts: 2,778	It's sometimes called the Gael/Gall divide. As best summed up by TH White... __________________ Among the friendly dead, being bad at games did not seem to matter -Il Lupo Fenriso

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01-31-2006, 11:53 AM	#3
JennyHallu The Pearl, The Lily Maid Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In my luxury Barrow, snuggled up in a pile of satin pillows, eating fresh fruit. Posts: 1,628	Sorry, Heren... Honestly, I didn't mean to criticize the demarcations you laid out. I was merely pontificating (i like that word ) on how racial/cultural differences could be classified, if one wished to, and felt like getting nitty-gritty. Personally I'm one of those that annoy census people by skipping the question.

01-31-2006, 01:36 PM	#6
JennyHallu The Pearl, The Lily Maid Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In my luxury Barrow, snuggled up in a pile of satin pillows, eating fresh fruit. Posts: 1,628	bows to superior knowledge I stand corrected on celtic/germanic. But Gallic and Frankish languages are purely Italic...Must do research. Sometimes I wish I weren't curious. (You'd think I'd know this...I'm a direct descendant Highland Scot, and my husband is maybe 3rd gen Irish-American (But not Celtic))