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Pilgrim Soul
Join Date: May 2004
Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle...
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Mithalwen:
The wise walthy widow appears to already have taken a strong stand. She is known to be tricksy and a very cunning player which ever side she may reside on. I won't pretend to know what to expect from her other than something sneaky, sly, or silly. Valesse.... it is not enough to make me change my vote for a spite one for you but this is both wrong and bordering on the personally offensive. I have been perfectly straightforward and open and I think you will find that there has and is a dramatic difference between my performances as part of the "village" and as one of the "three". Silly I may be at times - but sly and sneaky never. I really think that is uncalled for. All I have done is look at the evidence and said when I was confused and that I was sorry when I was wrong. I have taken the strong stand becasue that is where the signs points to. I suggest you look at the evidence and refrain from pointless and inaccurate abuse. If you have charges back them up.
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Byronic Brand
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: The 1590s
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Safe in the knowledge that, as only one wolf remains, I won't be blamed for doing it, I have to defend Valesse from wolvishness or discourtesy, Mith.
This is after all her first village; she knows you're experienced and that makes her wary, not knowing as some of us do that you really don't take the side of evil, and that "sly and sneaky" are words far from your technique. She was brave to have a stab at answering my questions, and though I agree she was a mile off with you you shouldn't blame her too harshly for it, if you ask me.
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Byronic Brand
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: The 1590s
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Time is running out for me and I must attempt my own analysis of the remaining villagers, and the wolf concealed somewhere among them.
1. Anguirel-Anguirel-Wolf would be easily the loudest of the triumvirate, but though he would be a major voice in deciding kills at Night he would be less proficient at working out strategies by Day, hoping to just argue his way out of trouble and somewhat trusting to luck. Though he would try to maintain his usual style (which he's really rather vain about), nerves and tension would have extreme effects, sometimes increasing the vehemence of his cases and sometimes dampening it, in each cases drastically. He would also do a lot of innocent-binding, the only wolvish trick he pulled off in the first Werewolf game. His reaction to being alone would be increased nerves, but also an increased desperation to keep those nerves out of sight. 2. Mithalwen-Had she lasted this long, Mithalwen would be awed at her own luck, and might well try to take refuge in reticence. She would have been very much primus inter pares with her fellow wolves, and they would have had a large impact on Day and Night strategy-collegiate leadership, if you like. Now alone, she would be desperately relying on fruitless duels between innocents to further her cause, but wouldn't be confident enough to try and instigate any, I feel. 3. Kath-Kath would rely on her coherent knowledge of voting records and ability to analyse to allow her to infer rather than accuse. Slow and persistent would be her motto-no double-lynchings for her if necessary. In retrospect, she will have regretted her second comrade's hanging but been pleased that her own part in it gave her such a useful card to play. She would also hang on to maturity and moral high ground with all she had. 4. Valesse is next to Mithalwen, it seems to me at the moment, as the most innocent-looking among us. However, she doesn't have the supportive strength of Mith's track record. If a wolf, she will not have played a leading role, leaving that to the more experienced (marginally) Valier, but she may have had useful contributions to make spotting Gifteds. She would play it not too chameleonic, not combative at all, compliant with the suggestions of others, hoping to avoid suspicion for long enough. This is the sketchiest analysis I've made, I feel. Valesse has a sort of "Luthien's cloak" quality about her... 5. Gandalf is the easiest to imagine as a wolf; his job being to flee the "spotlight of death". He helped cause the lynching of innocent Wayne and dueled with him in a desultory fashion throughout; like two pawns locked together in a game of chess, but is this pawn really a bishop? Like wolf-Valesse he would have accepted Valier's leadership. A thing to consider is that if he's a wolf and he wins we'll all be incredibly irritated. However, you might think being lupine would make him post a little. He's a nightmare wolf, a worst-case scenario wolf, but not yet, I feel, one made into reality.
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Byronic Brand
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: The 1590s
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And a final note-don't quote me, as Kath did earlier, as being sure the Cursed One is dead. All I said was that mathematically, there was a 60% chance they were lynched. Factor in Glirdan's narration (using your salt-pinch I provided earlier) and Sod's Law, you can make that percentage lower if you like. I've been beaten at the last minute by assuming the Cursed Villager was dead before, and would not like to be so again.
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Among the friendly dead, being bad at games did not seem to matter -Il Lupo Fenriso |
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: |Away
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Anyway at no point did I mean to speak ill of you or anyone... except myself, but I am kind of airy. I'm sorry.
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Everlasting Whiteness
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I don't want to give in to the inevitability of my death, but I fear that saying anything more will just give Anguirel more fuel.
But I do want to counter some of what you said Mith, because I find some of it unfair. I did have time to credit you yesterday, but yesterday I saw no need to and hadn't looked hard enough at Valier to see that you could be right. The Day 1 vote for Eonwe was a random vote, but we get complained at when it's completely random so I used the one thing I could. As for misordering the names, since I didn't use the order to set up any accusations or even suspicions I truly don't see why it matters. It was not an attempt to make you look suspicious or to clear mine. I apologise if it upset you, but it was certainly not intended in any malicious way. If I am to die, I don't want to go while you still harbour ill feelings towards me, and I hope that this goes some way to apologising for any hurt I might have caused you. All I ask is that when I am proved innocent, you look closely at Anguirel. I know you will anyway since he was so persistent in getting me lynched, but consider it a last request.
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Everlasting Whiteness
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Well I must be off now so I'll say goodbye and wish you good luck tomorrow if the morning finds me dead.
++ANGUIREL Not exactly a surprise
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Wight
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: In crazy captions waving an angry fist at the outside world
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will there be a double lynch if the voting stays this way? I personally don't think this is wise all right it worked last time but still we could get two innocents and hand the game to the wolfs on a plate
but i can't think of anyone i feel is suspicious (its too late lol) so i won't vote |
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: |Away
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No Gandalf. Unless someone decides to not vote today there can be no tie. So you don't have to search them out, though they are all on this page:
Mith: Kath Ang: Kath Kath: Ang I've been taking my time considering this one... seems I've too hasty.
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"Loo, what sholde a man in thyse dayes now wryte, 'egges' or 'eyren'?" - Caxton, Eneydos
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: |Away
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Its getting late and I don't think I will be checking in by the time 'time' is called, so its... time to vote.
I'm hurt that I hurt Mith's feelings. I've spent a good hour and a half feeling the wrath of my most toxic eyelash enhancer thinking about it alone, and it made me feel careless, heartless, and overall blue. However her vote does not affect my own. If our wolf is not Kath, then I will not allow them the pleasure or chance of a double lynching. I singled out her posts which mention Valier, and here is what evidence I see in it: [--#61 Kath mentions Valier in passing. Suggests Valier and Eonwe are in kahoots... votes Eonwe. --#127 Commended Valier's analysis of Eomer's posts.]* --#345 Kath appears to become aware of Valier's presence once again. [--#353 Appears defensive of Valier toward Roa. --#363 Lists Valier as a possible wolf --#368 First hint of being suspicious of Valier, requests explanation. --#377 Votes for Valier]** * A lack of acknowledgement possibly to hide any kind of relationship. **Within 24 posts (And more importantly one Night) she went from defending to starting the lynch mob against Valier. The Wayne+Gandalf lynch plan has already been mentioned, and so has the wolf-list which left her in parenthesis beside mention of other posts send a message of self-innocence (mostly by Ang and of this Day). And so... ++ Kath
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"Loo, what sholde a man in thyse dayes now wryte, 'egges' or 'eyren'?" - Caxton, Eneydos
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