The Hobbit Survivor

[The Saucepan Man]

Well hey, pardon me for setting out my full and frank views ...

Originally Posted by Anguirel

So you think Dwarves should be reduced, but exempt all but one from being reduced on various grounds. Other Dwarves than Thrain are, as you yourself say, going to have to go.

Agreed. As I said, it starts getting difficult for me from here on in. I need to think about which Dwarves I would like to see staying around for a while. I'm with Lalaith on Balin and I would like to see one of either Fili or Kili stay in with a chance for the time being. And Bombur amuses me.

Originally Posted by Anguirel

Clearly this unvarying, sophistrical method of condemning and defending is-despite whatever higher reasons invoked-ultimately subjective.

Er, yes. And your point is ...?

Originally Posted by Rune Son of Bjarne

The whole buisness about voting off dead dwarves before the living ones is nonsence. We must either see all the dwarves (and other beeings) as living or dead.

Everything that you say is, of course, entirely correct. It was an issue that troubled me a while back, but I got over it. The real division, I suppose, is between characters that feature in the tale only by reference because they died before it began, whom I find it difficult to get too worked up about, and those who feature as primary characters in the tale, whom I find myself more attached to. Well, it works for me ...

Originally Posted by Anguirel

This thing about people being dead and smelling, started as a quip of Formendacil's I believe, is really no longer funny or clever. I mean, it never was that funny or clever ...

Silly old Ang! That's precisely why it is both funny and clever. Well, to me anyway.

Originally Posted by Anguirel

The Trolls are quite funny and Dwarf-reduction should be the primary priority...

Agreed.