Tol-in-Gaurhoth XVI: No man is an Island

[Gurthang]

Votes:

Naria - 3 (Cailin, Lhuna, TGWBS)
TGWBS - 3 (Azaelia, Farael, Menel)
Cailin - 1 (Naria)

Left - 8 (Rune, Alcarillo, Gurthang, Amana, Kuru, malkatoj)

Humperdink.

I'm almost at a loss. But then in the darkness, a phrase shone through:

Originally Posted by the guy who be short

For the record, Cailin, Naria, Kuru, I believe to be innocent.

Why do you believe Kuru to be innocent?! Was it not just yesterday that you voted for him? Hmmm... this could do with some looking into.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Originally Posted by Gurthang

Votes:

Naria - 3 (Cailin, Lhuna, TGWBS)
TGWBS - 3 (Azaelia, Farael, Menel)
Cailin - 1 (Naria)

Left - 8 (Rune, Alcarillo, Gurthang, Amana, Kuru, malkatoj)

ehm this does not add up Gurthang.

since I am really confused about TGWBS I will not vote for him, but for Malkatoj.

++Malkatoj

[Kuruharan]

Things seem to have gotten into a bit of a muddle all of a sudden.

I’m torn between voting for Amanaduial and TGWBS. Both of their behavior has been strange. I still have half an hour to re-read the thread.

Where has malkatoj got to?

[Gurthang]

I am now in full support of lynching Guy toDay. He has been extremely inconsistent; Quietness speaks against him.

The main reason I now call for his death is his switch on Kuru. He jumped onto Kuru after little or no previous inclination, and then simply dropped the attack the next Day. Just a little while ago, he decided that Kuru is innocent. The last time he said anything about Kuru, prior to that post, he stated he was NOT willing to call him innocent. Between those two posts, Kuru has said nothing.

Not to mention that those two are one of the pairs. In fact, they are the only pair left, since Naria was in both of the others.

Expect me to vote for TGWBS later.

If, and only if, he is a wolf, I would advise the following.

Lhuna, please ask TGWBS about Kuru.
Ranger, please protect Lhuna, so she can tell us about Kuru.
Naria, do not hunt Kuru. We will know everything about him tomorrow. Pick someone else, like malkatoj perhaps.

Remember, only follow that if Guy is a wolf. If he is not, you can still do it, but it won't be nearly as effective.

I'll be back later to explain why this will help us.

[Amanaduial the archer]

Well, I'm with TGWBS on one thing: Buggrit!

Hom. Oh, firstly, I'd like to start off with a fact that has apparently still been overlooked: very much female in this corner. If you want to suspect me, fine, your choice, but, y'know, at least put me down as wily female rather than Sauron-figure male.

Ummm…Amanaduial...your behavior throughout has been rather puzzling. You have gone on lengthy expositions that have usually not amounted to a whole lot of substantial information, seemed to go out of your way to inject confusion into the mix, and generally carried on crazy.

*sigh* Seems I'd have been labeled as Cobbler had she not been taken out quite so early in the game. I...it's a habit. I was procrastinating from an RS essay (Virtue ethics: what makes someone Good? Lol, relevant or what...) at that time, so I was somewhat in that mindset when I made my last two posts. But Cailin, Cailin, Cailin - O how you have fallen, you who believed so firmly that I was innocent earlier in the game? Shows how far things can change since the beginning, and indeed, on that note I once again refer to TGWBS - all my suspicions has been forced to alter, and I am now somewhat back at square one. Well, maybe not completely...

Originally Posted by Azaelia

Naria-Hunter...We have had hunter-bluffs before, but since no one else has spoken up and said, "no, I'm the hunter", I believe she is the real deal.

Well...I mean, actually, no - I've already voiced my doubt on exactly how wise announcing that you are the Hunter is. How likely is it that the real Hunter is going to come forward and blow their own cover? Maybe they might vote for her, suspecting her to be a wolf - talk about a good cover - but I find it unlikely that they would come forward. I think Naria being a wolf is still more likely - it would, as I've said, be an excellent cover for a wolf, and she secures her safety from the other villagers. Well, theoretically - the fact remains that she is still jointly in the lead with votes, and as the first person to have accumulated three votes, she is still first in line to execution. Sure, we might think twice about denouncing her as a wolf (the total irony of the possibility that we might kill one of our greatest assets is one that certainly makes me a little jumpy) but this would be an almost perfect lupine plan.

My doubts on Farael, as seen in my previous post; apparently this view is not solidly held, although I note that people are no longer totally overlooking him - "wildcard" "suspicious status", "hardly doubted but we don't know." We sure don't - and as I feel less sure on him that on Naria, it will probably be Naria who gains my vote tonight. But, half an hour left, depends on whether a vote by either may sway my ideas...

(Oh, and Kuru and Cailin: I solemnly swear to try to be more one-sided and less rounded in future. Sound good? )

(Crosspost with Gurthang, Kuru and Rune)

[Kuruharan]

Well, I’ve re-read the thread. (Well, re-skimmed might be more accurate.)

I see Gurthang also finds this individual’s switch on me to be a little strange.

So,

++ The Guy Who Be Short

I’ve been suspicious of him from DAY ONE and his behavior has continued to be bizarre. He was almost totally silent (except to vote for innocents, including our Seer) before. Now that we may be closing in on him he is certainly vocal enough. He had the appearance of somebody watching the rest of the people slash at each other. Plus, his sudden reversal on me is a bit…odd. It is almost like he is canvassing for support or something. Since I’ve been suspicious of him for so long I think I carry on through with it.

Umm…malkatoj did vote yesterday…didn’t she?

[Formendacil]

In case I have not been perfectly clear about times, Day 4 has approximately 15 minutes left to run.

~Michael A. Joosten - WW XVI Moderator~

[Amanaduial the archer]

Oh, meh, I'm off to play the cello, and I won't be back probably until after the deadline, so I hereby make my vote with quarter of an hour to go of the Day:

++Naria

EDIT: Crosspost with Kuru and Modacil. And yes, Kuru, Malka did vote yesterday.

[Gurthang]

Amana, if you are trying to say you are the Hunter, you really should just say it. It's almost like you were saying it in a round about way. If you are, say so. There's not time left.

[Gurthang]

I dare not wait longer.

++TGWBS

Let's hope he's a wolf.

Gifteds, good luck toNight. Wolves, crappy luck to you.

[Gurthang]

Kuru, if I die toNight, look at Amana's second to last post. That longer one.

[Formendacil]

As the day drew to a close, the ballots were being counted. The Guy Who Be Short, who had been among Naria’s greatest opponents before Cailín had made clear that she was not a Hunter, seemed to have drawn the short straw of the day.

“I’m telling you,” he insisted, as they began to encircle him, and prevent his escape, “this is pointless! I may be misguided, but I’m innocent.”

Seeing the villagers massed around, The Guy Who Be Short took a long, deep breath, clearly sizing up his odds- odds which no sane man would have bothered attempting. But desperation seized him, and The Guy Who Be Short knocked over Farael, and tried to make a run for it.

As with Garin’s attempted escape, the entire village chased after him, and the speedier ones among them were soon catching up. Only one villager didn’t give chase. Amanaduial coolly drew an arrow from her quiver, set it to her bowstring, raised her longbow, drew back on the string, and with a faint whistling, the arrow sprang forward, taking down The Guy Who Be Short in the back. He dropped like a lead weight to the ground.

“I can’t believe… you didn’t believe… me,” he gasped in his last moments.

“Can’t believe it?” said Meneltarmacil, “he certainly earned his death!”

“I agree,” said Alcarillo. “He’s as mad as a hatter.”

“He was a hatter,” said Azaelia, dryly.

“That’s why it was funny,” said Alcarillo.

“Well, he hasn’t changed a bit,” said Lhuna, “and I’m pretty sure he’s dead. I guess he’s just an INNOCENT VILLAGER.”

“He’s still an idiot,” said Gurthang.

“Let’s not speak ill of the dead,” said Naria. “At least we can give him a proper burial- and let’s get it done before sundown if we can…”

And so the villagers of Dol-in-Gaurhoth gathered up the body of the dead Guy Who Be Shot and buried him beneath the hanging tree in the village square. On a slat of wood, they wrote his epitaph. The top of the board, whereon was written his name, was lost, and so he is only known to history as “The Guy”.

“Here Lies The Mad Hatter.
May he rest in peace,
Troubled no more by Hare-y beasts.”

Day 4 is now over, Night 5 has begun. Posting should be over.

I will be needing names from the Seer, Ranger, and Werewolves.

Day 5 will begin and end at the normal times.

~Michael A. Joosten - WW XVI Moderator~

[Kuruharan]

Malka did vote yesterday.

That's right. I remember that now. *Whew* we're not going to have another summary execution toDAY, thank goodness.

[Alcarillo]

Swayed by Gurthang's words, I shall vote for

++The Guy Who Be Short

[Lhunardawen]

Oh, look...I found a way to be back!

So, Aman, at least that makes things a little less confusing now: you're not the Hunter. Now the only thing that confuses us regarding you is your innocence or lycanthropy, whichever the case.

Honestly, I'm really not sure whether lynching you is the right thing to do. We can blame your being inexperienced for your suspicion of Naria, but then again you can be smart enough to hide behind the same explanation.

As for the issue concerning Kuruharan: Despite his claims of being incapable of playing such a risky game were he a wolf, don't you really think he can pull that off? If my memory serves me right, there was once a certain village called Loveland where a certain Lhunatic and her fellow villagers managed to fall under the control of a very, very cunning werewolf named Eomer - who ended up single-handedly destroying the entire village.

What's your point, you ask? It's just that if it happened once, it can certainly happen again. And I'm sure you all agree with me that this Eomer is not the only wolf who could play as boldly and smartly as that.

Whether you agree with me or not, Master Dwarf, you hold a certain amount of control in this village; I'm sure that I will be proved right in saying this when Aman ends up being lynched toDay. I normally don't have a problem with that, but the problem here is that we aren't even certain on which side you are playing for.

One thing that very slightly worries me about my suspicion of you is that you defended me early on during the game. Now if you had me pegged as an innocent or possibly as a gifted - perhaps even as the Seer - then you should have killed me earlier. But then again, you could just be latching onto a certain known innocent (assuming you are a wolf) to get the chance to use the words "I told you so," and then claim that you previously had the idea that she was a gifted once she declares so.

I guess for this I'll receive another exasperated tirade. But I wonder why you seem all to eager to stop any ideas of suspicion against you. You see, all of us have to undergo some questioning at one time or another. You stand out to me for the reason that whenever someone expresses doubts about you, you answer irritatedly (it seems) and dismiss the idea very easily. It's as if you don't want anyone suspecting you too thoroughly, so before they have the chance to scrutinize you, you tell them to back off - with exasperation (again, so it seems). That's how they came to me, and I find the thought rather troubling.

Originally Posted by Cailín

I do not wish to disregard Rune, Farael and Zali so easily, though I believe them innocent. I'm rather surprised no one has yet fought this assumption, while a wolf might definitely have tried to cast suspicion on any of them.

Not that I'm defending them but it's possible that they really are innocent, and the wolves don't want an innocent being lynched who could lead directly to them. Perhaps they think that there's already enough confusion in this village to hide them.

But you're right, of course, in saying that we shouldn't just forget about them.

[Lhunardawen]

Now I'm afraid I really must go. Good night, villagers. Bad night, werewolves.

And if I die tomorrow Night, well... please save the village. And kill the wolves.

[Cailín]

You make me doubt myself again, Lhuna, which is not very nice. Anyway - I just would find it unfair to vote for Kuru because of good behaviour (aside from being arrogant and exasparated) while we don't even consider Rune, Zali and Farael - just because they are not cunning enough?

And though you are right and this Eomer you speak of (by the way - it is rather remarkable how often he has been mentioned in a game he does not even participate in ) is indeed a great example of low cunning and exceptionally bold strategies, this does not automatically mean we're facing the same thing here. It would also be silly to keep coming up with rather far-fetched theories while the guilty ones are obviously right in front of us!

I wish I knew for sure, but I think we shall likely find our wolves among the following people: Kuruharan, Amanaduial, Meneltarmacil and Malkatoj. I'm starting to regret we're not able to pull a double lynch.

Edit: Cross-posted with Farael.