Is Eru God? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

littlemanpoet · 12-25-2005, 08:53 PM

What you say is not without merit, davem, from my perspective. The upshot of what I understand from your post is that God maintains all Creation and that God's activity, in Eternity, in doing so, is constant. For humans to say that God wanted and needed to create humans is probably particularizing God's activity and being in terms of humans.

I seem to recall that alatar raised a remonstration regarding angels "clothing" themselves in human form, probably right down to DNA, including the capability for reproduction and the continuation of a human line through many generations: how, then, is the humanity of Christ, who is God, according to Christians, special? The answer is that Jesus is God, not merely an angel, and that he did not "clothe" himself (no matter how completely that may be done) in humanity, but was conceived in Mary's womb by the Spirit of God, was carried to term through pregnancy, and was BORN fully human AND fully God. Exceptional. Beyond that, Jesus' purpose was his own death (and resurrection) in order to satisfy the justice of God. Only a man who was God could accomplish that. Qualitatively different from angels clothing themselves in human form for the sake of their self-glorification.

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12-25-2005, 08:53 PM	#30
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	What you say is not without merit, davem, from my perspective. The upshot of what I understand from your post is that God maintains all Creation and that God's activity, in Eternity, in doing so, is constant. For humans to say that God wanted and needed to create humans is probably particularizing God's activity and being in terms of humans. I seem to recall that alatar raised a remonstration regarding angels "clothing" themselves in human form, probably right down to DNA, including the capability for reproduction and the continuation of a human line through many generations: how, then, is the humanity of Christ, who is God, according to Christians, special? The answer is that Jesus is God, not merely an angel, and that he did not "clothe" himself (no matter how completely that may be done) in humanity, but was conceived in Mary's womb by the Spirit of God, was carried to term through pregnancy, and was BORN fully human AND fully God. Exceptional. Beyond that, Jesus' purpose was his own death (and resurrection) in order to satisfy the justice of God. Only a man who was God could accomplish that. Qualitatively different from angels clothing themselves in human form for the sake of their self-glorification.