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Celuien · 11-10-2005, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Eonwe

Celuien, i guessing that your question is about the seer lines of logic? i mixed tehm up. the second seer should read wolf.

That was the question, in addition to disagreeing that lynching Wayne is counterproductive. The best way to test Wilwa's veracity and hopefully get rid of a wolf is to lynch Wayne.

I didn't see a Wayne post.

I just thought of something. LMP is the only one so far to have asked NOT to be dreamt about. So far, it doesn't change my opinion of him, but it could be taken as an indication of guilt. I don't know what to think. I'll trust in Wilwa's judgment.

Finally, I need to go to sleep, so I'll be leaving soon. I'll try to get back in the morning to continue the discussion, but in case I don't, I want to make sure my vote goes to

++WAYNE

WaynetheGoblin · 11-10-2005, 07:50 PM

I did not post anything. Well im dead i probebly wont win either but i guess i had fun actually not really butit was a good game thank you spawn.

Eonwe · 11-10-2005, 07:54 PM

well i guess lynching wayne would be the surefire way to get at wilwa. i was thinking if wilwa is a wolf, the wolves can't kill her, so if she doen't die in two nights they we will have the truth without killing wayne either. but i guess that we would still have to wade through this: (which would be a tough call to make)

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Originally Posted by me

if wilwa is the seer, wayne must be a wolf. if wilwa is in fact a wolf, there are two differnt lines of logic she could choose:

pick a wolf, so when we lynch her, we will trust her. this is doubtful, cuz the idea isn't to have us trust her, its just to have us trust her for a day. the wolf sacrafise would be a long-run option.

pick an innocent to bring down with her. not a bad idea.

edit: dangit, i keep doing that! sorry for the confustion.

Eonwe · 11-10-2005, 08:04 PM

sorry to double post. hey its my first. ever.

i prolly shouldn't have deleted my post. wayne im almost freaking possitive you posted somthink about kittana being the other wolf. i read it, went to post, actually scrolled down to look at who you were thinking of adn posted. but when i did, mine was the only one there. am i halusinating?

WaynetheGoblin · 11-10-2005, 08:08 PM

I think you are seeing things because i didnt post. I like the idea where i dont get killed lets do that one please. If we do that the village will be happy since i am innicent.

tar-ancalime · 11-10-2005, 09:01 PM

Well, it seems we now know how to get Wayne to post more frequently! Multiple posts already, and it's still early in the DAY.

littlemanpoet · 11-10-2005, 09:26 PM

One more "damning" piece of evidence on Wayne: notice that his signature has changed since Wilwa pointed him out as a werewolf. It was an unwise move on his part, but by identifying himself toDay as one who is yet again about to lose a game of werewolf, he condemns himself.

tar-ancalime · 11-10-2005, 09:33 PM

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One more "damning" piece of evidence on Wayne: notice that his signature has changed since Wilwa pointed him out as a werewolf. It was an unwise move on his part, but by identifying himself toDay as one who is yet again about to lose a game of werewolf, he condemns himself.

Really? This is what I found just now when I checked one of his posts:

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I never win the werewolf game do I.

Isn't that what he had before? Or am I losing my mind?

littlemanpoet · 11-10-2005, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by tar-ancalime

Isn't that what he had before? Or am I losing my mind?

I could be wrong, but I don't think so.

littlemanpoet · 11-10-2005, 09:36 PM

I have a risky idea, which may end up helping to clear or indite (sp?) those who have not yet voted. My suggestion is that all those who have not yet voted, vote for Glirdan. His face-saving early vote for Wayne, along with everything else he's been saying today (even separating out his attacks against me) just make him really suspicous. If all five of us vote for Glirdan, we have a double lynching (yes, that's me recommending it

), and the chance at getting rid of two werewolves in one Day ... if I'm right about him. Before I cast my vote, I'd like to see opinions from all.

That means that Anguirel, Eonwe, Firefoot, Lalaith, and I have a chance to put our votes on the line in a meaningful way. If Glirdan turns out to be a werewolf, all five of us have gained more credibility. Of course, if one of us is a werewolf, we're playing a very, very risky dare by playing along with this, and therefore it would not really be name-clearing; however, if we get two werewolves at once, we're in a very good position.

The risk factor, however, is that Glirdan is not a werewolf, and is gifted instead. If that is the case, I'll eat a corpse. I'm not completely sure this is the best strategy, so I'm hoping for feedback.

littlemanpoet · 11-10-2005, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Celuien

LMP is the only one so far to have asked NOT to be dreamt about. So far, it doesn't change my opinion of him, but it could be taken as an indication of guilt. I don't know what to think. I'll trust in Wilwa's judgment.

On the contrary. I would be a very stupid werewolf to put such an onus upon myself. It's not the way I would act if I were a werewolf. Of course, you may not believe that. Still, all I can do is tell you that I said it for the obvious reason, which is that if our seer is Wilwa and has only one free night to dream, please, don't waste it on an innocent!

Celuien · 11-11-2005, 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by littlemanpoet

On the contrary. I would be a very stupid werewolf to put such an onus upon myself. It's not the way I would act if I were a werewolf. Of course, you may not believe that. Still, all I can do is tell you that I said it for the obvious reason, which is that if our seer is Wilwa and has only one free night to dream, please, don't waste it on an innocent!

I know. I believe what you said. But since there's still suspicion swirling about, I was worried that the request to dream about someone else instead of spending the dream on you would help stir up the controversy, so I was swaying back to my original idea that Wilwa should put an end to the lmp is a wolf theory tonight. It seems like every day's discussion is dominated by that argument, which makes it harder to figure out who the wolves are.

And please, Wilwa, tell us who the other known innocents are even if they don't come back to give permission. The Ranger needs to know who to guard over the next few days.

Off to the shop!

EDIT: Cross-posted with Wilwa.

11-10-2005, 07:50 PM	#2
WaynetheGoblin Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: far far away Posts: 275	I did not post anything. Well im dead i probebly wont win either but i guess i had fun actually not really butit was a good game thank you spawn. __________________ if your happy im happy if your sad im sad if you jump of a cliff i watch

11-10-2005, 08:04 PM	#4
Eonwe Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: In a world grown ever smaller. Posts: 678	sorry to double post. hey its my first. ever. i prolly shouldn't have deleted my post. wayne im almost freaking possitive you posted somthink about kittana being the other wolf. i read it, went to post, actually scrolled down to look at who you were thinking of adn posted. but when i did, mine was the only one there. am i halusinating? __________________ I've got bridge club on Wednesday, Archery on Thursday, Dancing on a Friday night!

11-10-2005, 08:08 PM	#5
WaynetheGoblin Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: far far away Posts: 275	I think you are seeing things because i didnt post. I like the idea where i dont get killed lets do that one please. If we do that the village will be happy since i am innicent. __________________ if your happy im happy if your sad im sad if you jump of a cliff i watch

11-10-2005, 09:01 PM	#6
tar-ancalime Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: abaft the beam Posts: 303	Well, it seems we now know how to get Wayne to post more frequently! Multiple posts already, and it's still early in the DAY. __________________ Having fun wolfing it to the bitter end, I see, gaur-ancalime (lmp, ww13)

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11-10-2005, 09:26 PM	#7
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	One more "damning" piece of evidence on Wayne: notice that his signature has changed since Wilwa pointed him out as a werewolf. It was an unwise move on his part, but by identifying himself toDay as one who is yet again about to lose a game of werewolf, he condemns himself.

11-10-2005, 09:36 PM	#10
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	I have a risky idea, which may end up helping to clear or indite (sp?) those who have not yet voted. My suggestion is that all those who have not yet voted, vote for Glirdan. His face-saving early vote for Wayne, along with everything else he's been saying today (even separating out his attacks against me) just make him really suspicous. If all five of us vote for Glirdan, we have a double lynching (yes, that's me recommending it ), and the chance at getting rid of two werewolves in one Day ... if I'm right about him. Before I cast my vote, I'd like to see opinions from all. That means that Anguirel, Eonwe, Firefoot, Lalaith, and I have a chance to put our votes on the line in a meaningful way. If Glirdan turns out to be a werewolf, all five of us have gained more credibility. Of course, if one of us is a werewolf, we're playing a very, very risky dare by playing along with this, and therefore it would not really be name-clearing; however, if we get two werewolves at once, we're in a very good position. The risk factor, however, is that Glirdan is not a werewolf, and is gifted instead. If that is the case, I'll eat a corpse. I'm not completely sure this is the best strategy, so I'm hoping for feedback.