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Old 11-04-2005, 03:45 AM   #1
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Ang, there are 3 votes already for Dior.

Whoever it is that brings down Doriath, the girdle is the major obstacle. While there are already Dwarves within the girdle, I doubt that they are of sufficient force to bring it down. No, the obvious vote is the best one today. And Melian has been around for far too long, anyway. It's time for her to go.

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Old 11-04-2005, 04:39 AM   #2
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Good catch, Saucie-

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Old 11-04-2005, 04:48 AM   #3
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Ah, I've always been rather taken with Dior.....I think of him being rather exquisitely dressed....

But to save Melian, this fashion-plate must go....
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Old 11-04-2005, 05:12 AM   #4
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Gothmog, from what I have read, it seemed to me that in the Silmarillion he wanted the silmaril for itself and used the Nauglamir as an excuse. I believe that given the chance, he will take it.
From what I've read, Telchar was never close to the silmaril. It is said that great craftmen from Nogrod made Nauglamir and that they felt the lust to possess it and therefor betrayed Thingol. Nowhere is the name Telchar mentioned, and as he is quite famous he should have been if he was involved. If there isn't more information somewhere else than in Silmarillion... I looked it up in Silm. to be sure.

And regarding Dior: personally I don't the eviction of him will make such a big difference. I mean a male called "the beautiful", does that sound like a mighty warrior?
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Old 11-04-2005, 05:15 AM   #5
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This Telchar probably isn't THE Telchar, remember. He is exactly what you describe-a great craftsman from Nogrod...

Most witty re: Dior, but he could be a proto-skateboarding Legolas. And he did kill Celegorm, who seems pretty macho to me...
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Old 11-04-2005, 05:22 AM   #6
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Right...that's true, had forgotten about that. Question is: does Nauglamir exist? Was it ever created and if so, brought to Nargothrond with Finrod and if SO brought to Menegroth by Hurin? If not, whoever would be the substitute for Thingol (probably Dior), have no reason to ask the dwarfes for help to include the silmaril in it. And if their never asked to help, they'll never get access to the jewel and will not be tempted to own it. Besides, I think it'll be heavy guarded. Only reasons the dwarfes could take it was that they worked alone with it and only Thingol supervised them.


And a small question about your vote, Ang
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and to avenge Curufin-++DIOR...
It's not Celegorm your avenging? Had to to that you know
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Old 11-04-2005, 05:38 AM   #7
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No-I am avenging Curufin in this game, as in this game it was Curufin that Dior (sort of) killed. Celegorm, you will recall, went down with Ancalagon.

The Nauglamir is still in Nargothrond. The Nogrod chappies are in Doriath to mend Dior's halls which were trashed in the battle...

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