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Old 11-02-2005, 11:02 AM   #1
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Huor isn't there any more. Plus he's her UNCLE, Saucie. For shame. As if Ang's cousin thing wasn't bad enough.
Now you lot have evicted all the mortal men, except for Nienor's first cousin, and Dior.
However think we could do worse than an Andreth/Aegnor type scenario.
How about Celegorm? Or - hey - even Glorfindel, on a little visit from Gondolin?

As for eviction: there's too many Noldor, we should whittle them down. How about Ereinion or Gwindor (I'd suggest the rather obscure Salgant but I've got a feeling he's there for a Angy reason and I don't believe in upsetting people needlessly)
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Old 11-02-2005, 11:22 AM   #2
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You have a free hand on eviction, yes.

I've put in a lot of surviving Gondolin characters (with Ecthelion dead ages ago) because we'll be having a Fall of Gondolin task in a day or two and I need to widen its possibilities-Maeglin's sad death left only Idril in Gondolin!

Incidentally, has my alternative Maeglin life left any of you with any sympathy for the poor chap?
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Old 11-02-2005, 11:31 AM   #3
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Incidentally, has my alternative Maeglin life left any of you with any sympathy for the poor chap?
It most certainly has. Poor Maeglin.

What about a Gwindor/Nienor match? He did lose Finduilas to Turin, after all.

Not sure about eviction just now. Since we have a free hand today, it might be a good chance to eliminate who or whatever is the most irritating before we have to think of a challenge again. I'm half tempted to vote for Ancalagon to avenge alternate-Maeglin.
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Old 11-02-2005, 11:40 AM   #4
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For elimination: + + Ancalagon the Black
(Dragons are doing just too well in Doriath. It's time to
slap them around a little).

Marriage to Nienor: Well, let's see, who was really not
treated very well by Turin and to whom did Turin admit he
owed a debt...ah! Mim, and think of the interesting descendants
and family tree that would result. So, wedding bells for
Nienor and + + Mim the Petty Dwarf

Btw, a subtitle for day 11 could be:
The Wild Bunch in Doriath. Now who would William Holden play?
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Old 11-02-2005, 12:01 PM   #5
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Plus he's her UNCLE, Saucie.
Well, I said that it would muck things up ...

But I must admit that I had forgotten that little fact.

Now, let's see. If we marry Nienor off to an Elf they will, unless they accomplish some act worthy of Eru's grace, live together for what will seem to the Elf only the flickering of an eye. That would leave one very broken-hearted Elf. Still, I'm tempted to suggest Celeborn, simply to save the poor chap from an eternity of being hen-pecked by Galadriel.

As for eviction, I agree with Lalaith that there are far too many Noldor left. To appease Ang, we can choose one who will not be involved in the forthcoming Fall of Gondolin. No idea who Salgant or Ereinon are, so they seem likely candidates, unless anyone would care to suggest a good reason for keeping them.

It would be a shame to cut Ancalagon down before he has had a chance to reach maturity. Besides, he plays rather an important role, later on doesn't he? Then again, it is possible that Smaug and Scatha have already hatched out. I would be happy to remove Ancalagon if it allowed them a role in the story.
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Old 11-02-2005, 12:04 PM   #6
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Some clarifications-

Ereinion is Gil-Galad's real name.

Salgant is the Lord of Harps at Gondolin, a fat, merry, comic and contemptible character. I find him quite interesting.
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Old 11-02-2005, 12:05 PM   #7
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Ang, I am NOT going to countenance Morgoth for Nienor. That really is too pervy for words.
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Old 11-02-2005, 12:10 PM   #8
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It would make an amusing "La Belle et La Bete" write-up...

Anyone for evicting Idril? Oh, blast, Earendil pops up again. Why does he have to have such an irritating mother?

Ancalagon's only role, Saucie, is as Earendil's hunting trophy. "I sailed to Middle-earth and all I got was this lousy Dragon..."
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Old 11-02-2005, 11:53 AM   #9
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My views on suitors...

First, the Sons of Feanor. Maglor appeals most out of these, though technically only Celegorm is unmarried-the two elder brothers are said to have left wives in Valinor. If you vote for either of them though, I'll find a loophole.

Celegorm would, I think, be either a very good or very bad choice, depending on your point of view...

From the other Noldor, Celebrimbor seems to me to be the front-runner; he has experienced suffering as has Nienor, and they share a rather serious temperament. Ereinion is a born bachelor as far as I can see, and Gwindor loves Finduilas, who's still around...

From the Sindar-Mablung could work, but seems a bit too, how can I put it, doggedly loyal, canine...

Dior-if he's chosen, I'll kill off Nimloth before marrying him to Nienor. An interesting choice bound to create lots of strife.

Tuor-No one will have the guts to choose this and go without Earendil. Still, the kinship would provide potential for a proper cursed hero to bring down Elf kingdoms, since Turin failed so spectacularly...opens up the wackiest story-lines, certainly. And it would give Idril what she deserves.

Morgoth: Well, he showed an interest in Luthien. A version of the maiden sacrifice?

I will probably vote Celebrimbor, but I'm tempted by Tuor, Dior, Celegorm and Maglor...

EDIT: For eviction I too wouldn't mind seeing Maeglin avenged. And Earendil's going to need all the help he can get-I've just realised we've evicted or I've killed off

Eonwe, Finarfin, Ingwe

and so rather reduced the Valarin Host...

So to ensure a safer Beleriand:

++ANCALAGON
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