The Silmarillion Survivor

[Lalaith]

Is it just me or is Lalaith defending every woman?

Yes, Gothmog, it's just you. I've put up both Melian and Finduilas as possible eviction candidates today.
I'm not convinced about Curufin either. It seems a bit pointlessly mean.

[Gothmog]

Sorry Lalaith

As for Curufin, I too see it as a bit useless in this task, but after all it's my arch-enemy Curufin we're talking about. And to make Ang suffer a bit sounds like a good plan I fear we'll be punished for this, but it's worth it...

++Curufin

And too prove I'm not only bandwaggoning read for example my first post (#25) , #33 and most important #63

Finally I get my chance! Feel the wrath of the Valarauka Anguirel!

[Anguirel]

Allow me to defend poor little Curufin, now the youngest of the sons of Feanor...

Originally Posted by Saucie

I think that there's mileage in my theory on Curufin. It seems that the remaining sons of Feanor are providing a bulwark against Morgoth's armies to the north. Take out one of them and the bulwark's weakened. It won't be too long before those very same armies are encamped right outside Doriath. And that's gotta be bad for Turin's state of well-being.

Tosh for these reasons-

1. As mentioned a bove, Turin likes having lots of Orcs nearby to hunt

2. More importantly-the four Sons of Feanor are bulwarks no more. Himring and Thargelion have been abandoned after the Nirnaeth, and Himlad was destroyed after the Bragollach long ago, when Maglor's Gap also fell. The Sons of Feanor, "scattered like leaves", now wander landless in Ossiriand. They still have military power, but they have no possessions on land and are in no position to stop the advance of Morgoth's armies.

Your "legit" argument thus invalidated, you are left with this-

Originally Posted by Saucie

So, partly for that reason, but mostly because he's Anguirel's favourite

to which I cry mercy with this

Originally Posted by Lalaith

I'm not convinced about Curufin either. It seems a bit pointlessly mean.

I remind you that I have just, at immense spiritual cost, killed Caranthir of my own free will. If Curufin goes now, so undeservedly, I shall probably go stark raving mad and mangle Beleg and Mablung in a terrifying accident with Melian's lawnmower.

For myself, I agree that Thingol should be considered a strong candidate. A palace revolution destabilises childhoods like nothing else. Thingol was essentially kind and paternal to Turin, while Melian may leave with him, depriving Doriath of her Girdle. Dior or Beren might succeed, probably leading to some kind of edginess between the two lines of Men...

++THINGOL

[Gothmog]

Anguirel is right of course. But it's hard to resist the temptation of voting out Curufin. The one thing that might hold me back is the fact that there's no honour in getting rid of him without a good reason. But on the other hand Ang can make sure we never get a good reason by deciding the tasks.

It would feel better to defeat Anguirel with own rules and the rules of the game. I'm not sure of what to do. If there's a good alternative presented with good reasoning behind, I'm prepared to switch from Curufin...for this time. I won't be happy to do so, but that could be the "right" thing to do

I'll just wait and see what happens. I'd also like to hear what Saucepan Man has to say about this.

If I'm right, this is the current status:

Curufin: 3
Thingol: 2

[The Saucepan Man]

Originally Posted by Anguirel

They still have military power, but they have no possessions on land and are in no position to stop the advance of Morgoth's armies.

Then they are pretty useless, aren't they? Can't see how Curufin might do anything to assist in future tasks that one of his remaining brothers could not accomplish. Whereas all of the other candidates that have been discussed have fairly unique talents which might come in handy in the future. So, I can't see much point in keeping Curufin.

Originally Posted by Anguirel

If Curufin goes now, so undeservedly, I shall probably go stark raving mad and mangle Beleg and Mablung in a terrifying accident with Melian's lawnmower.

Originally Posted by Gothmog

But on the other hand Ang can make sure we never get a good reason by deciding the tasks.

You see, this is precisely the reason why I have chosen to vote for Curufin. Unless it suits my own purposes, I don't like to be manipulated (as opposed to persuaded) into voting in a way that suits the agenda of another, particularly not the show's producer. In other words, I like to exercise free will.

Remember that this is a reality game show. Voting with the tasks in mind is fair enough. But it is also perfectly permissible for viewers to vote off those contestants that they dislike, regardless of the task at hand. That's mostly how reality game shows work.

[Gothmog]

Remember that this is a reality game show. Voting with the tasks in mind is fair enough. But it is also perfectly permissible for viewers to vote off those contestants that they dislike, regardless of the task at hand. That's mostly how reality game shows work.

So be it. My vote stays.

[Celuien]

++THINGOL

Without Thingol, poor Turin will have no father figure around or anyone take him to fencing matches. Surrounded by his mother, sister and Melian, he's going to wind up being dragged to performances by the Doriath Ballet Company. Hopefully, his angst level will be increased. Plus, we'll have a power vacuum in the palace. Nothing like some old fashioned struggle for leadership to cause turmoil.

And I believe this takes the count to Curufin and Thingol tied at 3 votes each, so Ang should still be sufficently displeased.

[The Saucepan Man]

Time?

Or is this Day extra-long in order to give Curufin a better chance ...?