What important scenes were missed out of the movies? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Oroaranion · 10-23-2005, 05:21 AM

not quite sure whether this belongs on here, but the movies show Arwen rescuing Frodo after Weathertop, whereas it was actually Glorfindel in the book. also, where was Prince Imrahil of Dol Amroth? and the Grey Company, Aragorn's fellow Dunedain? and all the others that marched to Minas Tirith in its hour of need. enough said really. i dont think that Peter Jackson liked the race of Men form the books really, probably because all other races else looked better on screen.

Legolas · 10-24-2005, 08:09 PM

Glorfindel...would've been cool to see.
The journey home, and the Scouring.
Cornering Saruman in Orthanc.

Rimbaud · 10-25-2005, 02:43 AM

Not much to add to the above, but some small detail: I would like more to have been made of Merry & Pippin's extra height. It's related to their growth as characters, and I suppose inherently tied in with the missing Scouring section, but still, they seemed the same height as Sam and Frodo at the end, which didn't ring true.

Eruanna · 10-25-2005, 05:29 PM

I wasn't too bothered by the omission of the scouring of the shire. It would have been a bit of an anti-climax and I seem to recall there were quite a few complaints about the 'multiple endings' to RotK.
Most of the scenes that I missed most in the theatrical versions were put back in the extended dvds. However, I still think that Saruman was not given enough screen time in the last film and just finding the Palantir lying in the water, without any explanation about how it got there was a bit of a wasted opportunity.

arcticstorm · 10-25-2005, 06:19 PM

I really enjoyed the movies as they were, but one scene that had tremendous inpact much later on in the book was that of the barrow downs. I believe that it was Gandalf who said that Merry was able to hurt the Witch King because of his barrow blade. I believe that he said that with any other blade he would not have been able to give him the original hurt.

Ardeth Bay · 10-26-2005, 10:31 AM

The only part i really missed was the muster of Gondor before the battle of Pellenor Fields

Where was Imrahil, Forlong the fat, Hirluin, Derufin, and all the others that came to the aid of Minas Tirith.

And who was that guy they called Irolas-was he supposed to take imrahil's place

Frodo Baggins · 10-31-2005, 06:55 PM

I wrote this in my xanga a few weeks ago

I was thinking yesderday about how the movie producers handled the love story of Faramir and Eowyn. I feel they downplayed it too much. Had I never read the story for myself I am not sure I would have known thet they ever really fell in love or married. I was expecting to hear from Faramir " Then I will say, Eowyn of Rohan, that you are beautiful ." I got an explanation of spring rain and an embrace. The whole dialogue of Faramir taming a shieldmaiden from the north and Eowyn's speech about how she will no longer be a shieldmaiden but a healer is such a golden, yet oft tragically overlooked, part of the book . One of the best parts in the whole saga is when Faramir and Eowyn kiss while standing atop the wall in front of everyone! You would think with all the gratuitous (and at times unnecessary) kissing scenes between Aragorn and Arwen they could shove one kiss of Faramir and Eowyn in there. Their kiss in the story is the culmination of two people who have lived their whole lives with hardly a semblance of love from anyone who finally discover somone they love who truly loves them in return . Yes, I am dissatisfied and you can tell Peter Jackson I said so.

10-23-2005, 05:21 AM	#1
Oroaranion Haunting Spirit Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Dol Amroth Posts: 94	not quite sure whether this belongs on here, but the movies show Arwen rescuing Frodo after Weathertop, whereas it was actually Glorfindel in the book. also, where was Prince Imrahil of Dol Amroth? and the Grey Company, Aragorn's fellow Dunedain? and all the others that marched to Minas Tirith in its hour of need. enough said really. i dont think that Peter Jackson liked the race of Men form the books really, probably because all other races else looked better on screen. __________________ I go to my fathers. And even in their mighty company I shall not now be ashamed. I felled the black serpent. A grim morn, and a glad day, and a golden sunset!

10-24-2005, 08:09 PM	#2
Legolas A Northern Soul Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Valinor Posts: 1,847	Glorfindel...would've been cool to see. The journey home, and the Scouring. Cornering Saruman in Orthanc. __________________ ...take counsel with thyself, and remember who and what thou art.

10-25-2005, 02:43 AM	#3
Rimbaud The Perilous Poet Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Heart of the matter Posts: 1,062	Not much to add to the above, but some small detail: I would like more to have been made of Merry & Pippin's extra height. It's related to their growth as characters, and I suppose inherently tied in with the missing Scouring section, but still, they seemed the same height as Sam and Frodo at the end, which didn't ring true. __________________ And all the rest is literature

10-25-2005, 05:29 PM	#4
Eruanna Memento Mori Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Past The Point Of No Return Posts: 1,117	I wasn't too bothered by the omission of the scouring of the shire. It would have been a bit of an anti-climax and I seem to recall there were quite a few complaints about the 'multiple endings' to RotK. Most of the scenes that I missed most in the theatrical versions were put back in the extended dvds. However, I still think that Saruman was not given enough screen time in the last film and just finding the Palantir lying in the water, without any explanation about how it got there was a bit of a wasted opportunity. __________________ "Remember, hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies."

10-26-2005, 10:31 AM	#6
Ardeth Bay Newly Deceased Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 10	The only part i really missed was the muster of Gondor before the battle of Pellenor Fields Where was Imrahil, Forlong the fat, Hirluin, Derufin, and all the others that came to the aid of Minas Tirith. And who was that guy they called Irolas-was he supposed to take imrahil's place __________________ Where is the horse and the rider? Where is the horn that was blowing? They have passed like rain on the mountain, like wind in the meadow; The days have gone down in the West behind the hills into shadow....

10-25-2005, 06:19 PM	#5
arcticstorm Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Johnson Bible College: Knoxville, TN Posts: 464	I really enjoyed the movies as they were, but one scene that had tremendous inpact much later on in the book was that of the barrow downs. I believe that it was Gandalf who said that Merry was able to hurt the Witch King because of his barrow blade. I believe that he said that with any other blade he would not have been able to give him the original hurt.

10-31-2005, 06:55 PM	#7
Frodo Baggins Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Bag-End, Under-Hill, Hobbiton-across-the Water Posts: 606	I wrote this in my xanga a few weeks ago I was thinking yesderday about how the movie producers handled the love story of Faramir and Eowyn. I feel they downplayed it too much. Had I never read the story for myself I am not sure I would have known thet they ever really fell in love or married. I was expecting to hear from Faramir " Then I will say, Eowyn of Rohan, that you are beautiful ." I got an explanation of spring rain and an embrace. The whole dialogue of Faramir taming a shieldmaiden from the north and Eowyn's speech about how she will no longer be a shieldmaiden but a healer is such a golden, yet oft tragically overlooked, part of the book . One of the best parts in the whole saga is when Faramir and Eowyn kiss while standing atop the wall in front of everyone! You would think with all the gratuitous (and at times unnecessary) kissing scenes between Aragorn and Arwen they could shove one kiss of Faramir and Eowyn in there. Their kiss in the story is the culmination of two people who have lived their whole lives with hardly a semblance of love from anyone who finally discover somone they love who truly loves them in return . Yes, I am dissatisfied and you can tell Peter Jackson I said so. __________________ "I'm your huckleberry....that's just my game."

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