WWJ II: Welcome to Lower Tadfield. The Apocalypse has Now Begun.

[Márcolië Lamen]

Ok, I'll talk normally. It'll be easier for me to, was actually debating switching to normal just because it gets rather annoying to keep switching caps lock while typing up a post and talking in IM.

Originally Posted by Gurthang

Technically, you are right. For this game, his odds are not different from the rest of us. But, you have to multiply the other game for it to factor in. Which comes to 9/195. It's like when you flip a coin, the odds for each toss are 1/2, but if you say you'll get two heads in a row, the odds are 1/4. So depends on how you look at it; if you factor the other game in or not.

I see what you are saying. But I just am bothered by the use of statistics in that way because you can't factor in the last game while looking at this one. They are independent events. But you are right too.

Also Marcolie, Who's Us?

Us would
obviously be the village as a whole. You think even Master DEATH would like see people torn apart? I myself would rather die of natural causes...well if I was mortal that is.

[Gurthang]

Originally Posted by Márcolië Lamen

I see what you are saying. But I just am bothered by the use of statistics in that way because you can't factor in the last game while looking at this one. They are independent events. But you are right too.

Exactly. Which is why Eonwe is not cleared in my mind. Just less... probable.

[wilwarin538]

I have returned.

Now I would just like to say that I don't think people should keep refurring to past games. You can use your past experiences to help you along but you shouldn't be saying "Well in the last game....".

Now random suspicions are already flying around, which is a good sign that we're all very serious about defeating these wolves.

From what I can tell we have less then 5 hours to choose someone. I say we don't lynch the loud ones, but we also don't lynch the very quiet ones, since wolves aren't dumb enough(atleast I don't think they are) to be posting very little. Which leaves us with those who post a moderate amount. Anyway, thats how I'm going to choose who to vote for. So that gives me tar-ancalime, Sleepy and Glirdan. I will now vote for one of them.

++tar-ancalime

Like everyone else's vote, this is random. I literally put these three names in a hat. No hard feelings I hope.

[Holbytlass]

Originally Posted by Kittanna

Holbytlass
I'm wondering how she made up her list. Holbytlass, what made you decide to stick some people on one list instead of the other?

Nothing special, I'm afraid, just split down the middle and shuffled a few names because it is the first day. That's really what everyone is doing toDAY, except the seer on one person.
Except for Wilwarin, that's just for old time's sake.

Just to be clear, we have until 9:00p.m.EDT(1:00a.m.GMT) to vote, right?

[Holbytlass]

Originally Posted by Glirdan

I say villagers, we need to keep a sharp eye out for those Wolves or Balrogs or whatever it was that attacked the two. I'll be watching all of you very closely.
I'm going to say right now that I think Eonwe is innocent. Don't ask why, it's a complete gut feeling.

(I added the bolding) I am now highly suspicious of Glirdan and will probably vote for him toDAY. One might say, but he is the seer, I say no because he is being too obvious. A true seer (or gifted) would not be so blatant especially on the first DAY and Glirdan has been around long enough to know. I think he is a wolf trying to come across as the seer so as not to be lynched. Of course, he would know Eonwe is innocent because all wolves know who is innocent.

Originally Posted by Márcolië Lamen

Ok, I'll talk normally. It'll be easier for me to, was actually debating switching to normal just because it gets rather annoying to keep switching caps lock while typing up a post and talking in IM.

And who are you I.M-ing? Highly suspicious (since of hand I don't know if wolves are allowed to talk during the day) but I'll give the benefit of the doubt until I find out the rule of this village for sure.

Actually, I have to vote now....

++GLIRDAN

[wilwarin538]

Nothing special, I'm afraid, just split down the middle and shuffled a few names because it is the first day. That's really what everyone is doing toDAY, except the seer on one person.

This confused me, probably cause of the way its worded. Did you mean that you put me on the suspect list for old time sake? Or did you meen something else.

I don't think Marc's comment about IMing is to supicious. I don't think she meant it that way. Or did she?


I agree about Glirdan, he seems to be trying to get himself thought as the seer. I think I real way to test him would be to not lynch him today. Then the wolves would most likely want to kill the suspected seer(unless they already have someone in mind), then if he isn't the one killed toNight then he could be a wolf, not wanting to kill himself. Just an idea, hope that didn't confuse you all.

[sotty]

Originally Posted by ”Márcolië Lamen”

BEYOND THAT, YES WE NEED TO START SOMEWHERE AND THANK YOU FOR STARTING THE BLAME GAME.

I believe this is the second time the word “blame” has been used (the first done by Hiriel) and I must say I find it a bit disconcerting. Playing a blame game suggests to me nothing good. It could amount in a bandwagon being built against some poor innocent who is quickly buried under by people who are too quick and eager to lay blame. I may be reading too much into this simple misuse of the word but on my re-read it of the thread it definitely stood out to me.


Holbytlass, your list was interesting indeed and now your vote for Glirdan is certainly intriguing. I understand your points and your logic is quite sound. It would be dangerous for the seer to be so obvious so early, but what if he is flying in the face of convention? Would you want to risk the seer so early on? I'm just thinking out loud here for all I know your suspicions could ring true.

As of right now I am wary of DEATH and my vote may rest there

[Márcolië Lamen]

Originally Posted by sotty

I believe this is the second time the word “blame” has been used (the first done by Hiriel) and I must say I find it a bit disconcerting. Playing a blame game suggests to me nothing good. It could amount in a bandwagon being built against some poor innocent who is quickly buried under by people who are too quick and eager to lay blame. I may be reading too much into this simple misuse of the word but on my re-read it of the thread it definitely stood out to me.

As of right now I am wary of DEATH and my vote may rest there

I was using blame because of the lack of information in order to have concreate suspisions today. Once we have for information we should work off of that, but before that and getting started so that we can get that information I can currently see no easy way but blaming the deaths of our dear beloved mods upon them.

Your point against bandwagoning is good, but I think no matter how the person becomes the one in that position, it may happen. We need to make sure this doesn't happen.

Oh and everyone please don't take my occupation against me. DEATH or not I care about the village.


On Eonwe, it feels trust comes too soon in general, mainly just from the repition of one name as a probable innocent.

As my fellow villagers will vote, mine will also be random- mostly based off of amount of posting since we have no much else to go on and any suspisions I have now beyond those of living here I am keeping to be watched but not gone overboard with, because first day, and even more so on first game, jitters hit.

THIS IS DEATH SIGNING OFF
(insert hoof print here)-Binky and Master DEATH

[Glirdan]

Holby, Hobly, Holby. I said that Eonwe is innocent. Just a gut feeling, right? It's becasue of something in, so far, quite a few of the posts I've seen from Eonwe's which makes me believe so. I am not trying to pretend to be the Seer. I'm merely trying to point something out to people, without giving to much away and by the looks of it, at least one other person MIGHT have caught on.

And what about our two wandering folks from out of town? What about Rune and Sleepy? Notice how they turn up when the trouble starts? Coincidence? I think not.

My list of suspicions:

Bergil - not to certain of
Rune Son of Bjarne - high on the suspicions list
Wilwarin538 - she could just be a crazy person. Or she could be acting crazy to cover for her hairy little secret.
Glirdan - innocent
WaynetheGoblin - not sure of
Gurthang - I believe innocent, but not sure. Definetly keeping my eye on him
Sleepy Ranger - high on the suspicions list
Sotty - not sure
Tar-ancalime - not sure
Márcolië Lamen - not completely certain of guilty or innocence
Eonwe - innocent, yet still keeping an eye on. I could be wrong you know.
Holbytlass - not sure
Hiriel - not sure
THE Ka - not sure
Kitanna - not sure

As you see, I'm not sure of a whole lot of people. That's because I didn't have time to read carefully through the posts everyone made. Right now, I'll probably be voting for Rune, Sleepy or Wilwa.

[Sleepy Ranger]

Had I known occupation would play so high on peoples decisions I definately would have picked something else but perhaps people are just trying to back up a random post with evidence that isn't there. Anyway the first day does tend to be quite random and hopefully by the next we won't be falling to things such as occupations and actually going off something solid.

As for who I suspect I don't really want to make any solid statement yet but a few people have caught my eye but I can't know for sure. Expect my vote in another hour or so.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Originally Posted by Glirdan

[B]
And what about our two wandering folks from out of town? What about Rune and Sleepy? Notice how they turn up when the trouble starts? Coincidence? I think not.

Well, I do not remember any of the dead beeing choked in cheese!


I realy can't see anything telling me who is innocent and who is not.

This is the people I have as "top" suspects at the moment (just a feeling)

Márcolië Lamen
Gurthang
tar-ancalime
(It does not meen that I will vote for one of them)

but there is still some people who has not even postet, this I do not like!
If they do not post, they do not help the village!

[Bergil]

You all dissed me for studying them instead of math, but nohard feelings,I'll help you. the most common way of becoming a werewolf is to drink water from a wolf's pawprint (I read that the stories about being bitten originated in Hollywood, and wouldn't they have bitten abercrombie and malkatoj instead of killing them if it were so). Ghurthang, Sleepy Ranger, and Rune have travelled more and may have been lost in the forest, but this proves nothing. also, I've had strange feelings ever since I've came here, but I'd always put it down to flows of chii, or having met some of the people here in a previous life. I apologise for taking so long to speak,I was delayed. I will not vote just yet, as someone may say something (or perhaps said somthing in the hour it took me to type this. I was forced to leave halfway through)