WWJ II: Welcome to Lower Tadfield. The Apocalypse has Now Begun.

[Hiriel]

Oh goodness! Two villagers in one night. This is grim indeed. I perhaps need to start cataloging pointy things so we can protect our beloved village from future tragedies. Either that, or blame somebody.

Hmm...no one is suspecious yet. The first day is always very random and baseless, and most of the evidence against people builds from there. Herm, I suppose I slighty suspect Marcolie, just because DEATH is kinda scary, or perhaps Glirdan, just because. I don't think we should build the Lynch Wayne bandwagon just yet. Hmm. I must to class, but I check on the thread later.

[Sleepy Ranger]

Oh goodness! Two villagers in one night. This is grim indeed. I perhaps need to start cataloging pointy things so we can protect our beloved village from future tragedies. Either that, or blame somebody.

As long as the pointy things are not claws or fangs/teeth I'm all for it. As for blaming somebody.....blame?....accuse would be a better word, no? Anyway as long as we don't throw it around randomly and think it over logically I daresay we'll be heading in the right direction. At the moment I don't really find anybody suspicious, I mean its just the first day so nothings clear. I daresay we'll have a clearer view of things tomorrow. With any luck we'll be able to take care of things before they get too messy.

[tar-ancalime]

Does Eonwe's demand for explanations strike anyone else as suspicious?

Is she (he?) attempting to prevent villagers from speaking up by requiring a standard of evidence that is impossible to attain, especially on the first day? A good tactic for a wolf--convincing others to be silent with their suspicions, then preying on an uncertain populace with trumped-up "evidence" when the time is ripe.

I admit that in the first shock of this terrible tragedy, I gave some unwise advice: I believe I advised you all to "watch and wait." This was a mistake, and I hope that I have not cost this village valuable hours.

At the moment, Eonwe is my chief suspect.

Also, I would like to hear more from DEATH. Having been so near to hand at the recent tragedy, certainly she has some observations, suspicions, or inklings to share with us.

[Gurthang]

(Eonwe the odds of being a wolf back-to-back are about 1/22. Hence Glirdan's reasoning. But don't worry, I haven't counted out the possibility. )

Eonwe, I believe that the expertise of yours, the one sotty was refering to, is your skill at undertaking, sadly enough.

tar-ancalime: you're making me suspicious. Don't be so jumpy, and don't flip-flop so much when someone says you're wrong. And to say you have a chief suspect this early (I would consider the entire first day early) is not really a good idea. Unless, both you and Eonwe are wolves, in which case it would be a wolvish strategy. Unlikely, that is, but I'm going to keep my eye on you tar-ancalime.

[Eonwe]

well, i see. didn't quite read that right...

well, no ancalime. i don't council not talking, just whenever possible, tell me what you are thinking, that way im on the same page and you don't look suspicious to me. the way i see it, wolves will not have much grounds to accuse people, because they have to accuse innocents. therefore, a baseless accusation registers on the radar as a bit suspicious. but i do realize that everyone will be making baseless accusations, especially in the begining when we have nothing. so if you don't have evidence, say it anyway. if you do have evidence, tell that of course. that's all i was saying.

ps. and im a he .

[Kitanna]

Originally Posted by Gurthang

(Eonwe the odds of being a wolf back-to-back are about 1/22. Hence Glirdan's reasoning. But don't worry, I haven't counted out the possibility. )

Aye, that is what I was thinking. I'm not counting Eonwe out as a wolf, but his odds of being a wolf two times in a row are pretty slim. But that doesn't mean I think he's an innocent.

So, it has been a few hours since I was last on and yet there is not much. It's expected of day one though, but I'm going to go ahead and accuse everyone who's spoken already. Baseless, accusing using people's occupations, but just to get something out there.

Wayne~ A scientist who most likely didn't believe in werewolves until he became one.
Márcolië Lamen~ Death, well mmm, let's see Death is always looking for more lives to take. So naturally she must be a wolf.
Eonwe~ Our friendly undertaker, psssh, undertakers are not friendly. He probably wants to see innocents die so he has more work.
Gurthang~ A peddler, never trust a peddler.
Glirdan~ Our village baker, well it's always the baker you last suspect, keep on eye on him.
Kitanna~ A historian, they're good for nothing. She was always a shifty character anyway.
Wilwa~ Wants to become a butterfly, but was disappointed when she became a wolf instead and went after the two innocents who really believed she could be a butterfly.
Sotty~ A school teacher. Teachers tend to like making things hard on their students, so now this wolf is making things hard on the rest of the town.
Sleepy Ranger~ An explorer from out of town? Funny how all this trouble starts when you arrive.
Tar-ancalime~ A crone is an unpleasant old woman. Unpleasant old women like to make things terrible for everyone.
Hiriel~ Connoisseur of pointy objects...like teeth and claws!

[sotty]

Sadly Eonwe I was referring to your skills in burying the dead.

Originally Posted by Eonwe

well, i've only played two games, and lost both, so i think i hardly deserve "expertise" status, but yes i will do all im my powers to kill our tormentors.

Any experience will help in these situations, I can only hope that your “help” will be in the best interests of the town as a whole.

Kitanna your list certainly is interesting and since you have posted I'll add your name on to the bottom here....

Kitanna – Historians are known for burying their heads in books and so has learned from the past on how to keep her wolfish tells well hidden

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Two dead people, the first day I am in town !

This will not be good for buisness! People just dont want to pay for cheese intertainment, after experiencing a massacrer.

And I who have spend the day rehearsing my new Cheddar, Camembert and Crotin du Chavignol. Juggling act.

I think I better stay and help sort this mess out. Cheese can be used for everything you know. Although I might have gone a bit too far when I made that Chesse kayak!

As for the moment I have no suspects, but I will go carefully throug the posts and inform you all later.

[Holbytlass]

Sorry to be so long, salting hides does take awhile. And sorry we meet under these awful circumstances. This being the first day, we all realize not much can be deciphered, therefore I have split the village in two categories. As things progress, a more accurate (hopefully) list will emerge. In the meantime.....

suspicious list
Hiriel. Connoisseur of pointy objects
Bergil, m. A 'Superstitious Guy.'
Rune Son of Bjarne, Traveling Cheese Juggler
Wilwarin538, f. that crazy girl who wants to be a butterfly
Glirdan, m. Baker.
Gurthang. Peddler.
Sleepy Ranger. Explorer from out of town who gets stuck in Lower Tadfield.
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not suspicious
Sotty. School teacher
Tar-ancalime. Crone.
Márcolië Lamen, unknown. DEATH.
Eonwe. Friendly undertaker.
WaynetheGoblin. Scientist
THE Ka. Ophelious Philosopher.
Kitanna. Historian.

absolute innocent
Holbytlass, f. tanner.

[Márcolië Lamen]

Originally Posted by Kitanna

Márcolië Lamen~ Death, well mmm, let's see Death is always looking for more lives to take. So naturally she must be a wolf.

IT'S DEATH. CAPITALIZED. DEATH ALWAYS SPEAKS IN CAPITAL LETTERS . [AND MY GENDER IS UNKNOWN, I MEAN I'M DEATH]

KITANNA- QUICK TO BLAME EVERYONE BUT HERSELF, 'STUDYING' FOR HISTORY, MORE WOLFISH TO ME THAN MERELY BEING A HORSEPERSON.


OK NOW THAT THAT'S DONE. TAR, I FEEL IS FLIP FLOPPING TOO MUCH, ESPECIALLY SO EARLY ON...

COULD JUST BE LACK OF EXPERIANCE WITH WOLVES, I MEAN WE HAVEN'T HAD THEM HERE BEFORE. TOO BAD THEY TOOK ME OUT OF RETIREMENT.

EONWE HAS THE SAME CHANCE AS US ALL 3 IN 15, OR RATHER 3 IN 14 COULD I SAY?, OF BEING A WOLF, STATISTICALLY. JUST HAD TO MENTION THAT YOU CAN'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT PAST ACTIONS FOR STATISTICS.


ON THEIR DEATH, ALAS I GOT THERE TOO LATE TO LEARN MUCH OF ANYTHING. JUST THAT THE WOLVES/BALROGS WERE IN FACT IN THIS VILLAGE. BINKY'S GETTING OLD AND NOT AS FAST AS HE WAS PREVIOUSLY. I'M SAD THAT I HAD TO...HELP DEATHIFY, 'CAUSE ITS NOT KILL...TWO DEAR FRIENDS OF MINE. MALKA AND ABERCROMBIE HOPE YOU CROSS THE DESERT QUICKLY AND REACH WHATEVER AFTERLIFE YOU BELEIVE IN.


WE PROBABLY SHOULD TALK ABOUT STRATEGIES TO SOME DEGREE. JUST BASIC ONES AS NOT TO HELP THE WOLVES THOUGH. LIKE THE WHOLE TALKING. ITS HARDER FOR A WOLF TO HIDE AMOUNG SILENTS SINCE WE KNOW NOTHING.
GIFTED SAYING EARLY ON, BE CAREFUL WITH HINTING AND DON'T START TOO EARLY. DON'T HINT YET ON THE FIRST DAY I DON'T THINK.
AND TO THE MYTHO, PLEASE MAKE A CHOICE WHICH HELPS US.

-DEATH

[Kitanna]

Originally Posted by Márcolië Lamen

KITANNA- QUICK TO BLAME EVERYONE BUT HERSELF, 'STUDYING' FOR HISTORY, MORE WOLFISH TO ME THAN MERELY BEING A HORSEPERSON.

Ah, but I did blame myself.
Posted by Me:

Kitanna~ A historian, they're good for nothing. She was always a shifty character anyway.

Besides it's day one, we need to start somewhere.

[Hiriel]

Herm...Just on on my lunch break and things really haven't changed all that much. But here's my thoughts right now.

Kitana: Wonderful list. Your implication of everyone, including yourself, though,doesn't help much though, unless someone gets suddenly very defensive. Which no one did. At least this village has a proper sense of humor, is all I can say.

Marcolie: Hmm. Two things : First you seem to be echoing what Sleepy said about Tar, which interests me, and Kitana did include herself in that list, actually. Second, this is a personal request with no baring on the game, if you could not write in all caps, I'd be very much obliged. It's just kinda distracting to me, entertaining though it is (Blinky!). I think we'll all refer to you, Master DEATH, appropriately.

DON'T HINT YET ON THE FIRST DAY I DON'T THINK.
AND TO THE MYTHO, PLEASE MAKE A CHOICE WHICH HELPS US.

To the gifteds: I would say hint or don't hint. There is no try. If you feel like you can hint subtly enough without arousing suspecion of the wolves, then please, let us know who you are, so we don't mistakenly lynch you. If you don't feel you can do that, just slink in the shadows and try to do the best job you can.

Also Marcolie, Who's Us?

No real suspects just yet. I'm a little suspecious of Tar, but I'm willing to write off his flip flopage (is that a word?) as first day/first game jitters. If he writes up another post like his earlier ones, though, I think he'll get on my hit-list.

[Gurthang]

Originally Posted by Kitanna

Gurthang~ A peddler, never trust a peddler.

Never trust a..! I'm terribly offended! You know, it's for people like you that I can never, ever stay in a town for very long. They always get suspicious. I've even had people go so far as to claim I stole from them to get me out of town! I don't see how you can distrust me simply because I love to travel and so made it into a job. I don't like that attitude at all!

Originally Posted by Márcolië Lamen

EONWE HAS THE SAME CHANCE AS US ALL 3 IN 15, OR RATHER 3 IN 14 COULD I SAY?, OF BEING A WOLF, STATISTICALLY. JUST HAD TO MENTION THAT YOU CAN'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT PAST ACTIONS FOR STATISTICS.

Technically, you are right. For this game, his odds are not different from the rest of us. But, you have to multiply the other game for it to factor in. Which comes to 9/195. It's like when you flip a coin, the odds for each toss are 1/2, but if you say you'll get two heads in a row, the odds are 1/4. So depends on how you look at it; if you factor the other game in or not.

Originally Posted by Sleepy Ranger

Granted we need to start somewhere but accusations off occupations are rather baseless since the occupation has no meaning.

What better way to waste the first day and get some conversation started than to banter witlessly about our occupations?

[Márcolië Lamen]

Ok, I'll talk normally. It'll be easier for me to, was actually debating switching to normal just because it gets rather annoying to keep switching caps lock while typing up a post and talking in IM.

Originally Posted by Gurthang

Technically, you are right. For this game, his odds are not different from the rest of us. But, you have to multiply the other game for it to factor in. Which comes to 9/195. It's like when you flip a coin, the odds for each toss are 1/2, but if you say you'll get two heads in a row, the odds are 1/4. So depends on how you look at it; if you factor the other game in or not.

I see what you are saying. But I just am bothered by the use of statistics in that way because you can't factor in the last game while looking at this one. They are independent events. But you are right too.

Also Marcolie, Who's Us?

Us would
obviously be the village as a whole. You think even Master DEATH would like see people torn apart? I myself would rather die of natural causes...well if I was mortal that is.

[Kitanna]

In a bit I'm going to have to head off to class and there's no telling when I shall return to post again. Before DAY ends, but when, I do not know.

But I did go through and read everything over again and there is not much to go on. Though there were a few posts that stuck out as I read them again...

Gurthang

In the event of an attack by werewolves, the best way to react to the situation is to kill the person most likely to be a wolf each day, usually by lynching.

Yes, this is a good idea, but it also a bad idea. Bandwagoning is just what werewolves want. If the entire village goes after one person and they all vote for him/her then that person proves innocent it is harder to pick the wolf from the voters. I'd say wait to bandwagon until a day or two has gone by. I think it is very dangerous for us to bandwagon on day one.

Glirdan

I'm going to say right now that I think Eonwe is innocent. Don't ask why, it's a complete gut feeling.

A follow-up to this was Gurthang saying the odds were in Eonwe's favor he was not a wolf, but not to count him out. I have a feeling Glirdan knows something.

tar-ancalime

Today, especially, we must be strong in the face of uncertainty. I urge everyone to watch, to wait, and above all to refrain from accusing the innocent.

Gurthang responded to this first by saying we need to talk because silence will not help us. Also though it would be ideal to catch all the wolves in the first three days I fear the odds are not in our favor. It is hard not to accuse an innocent (unless you're the seer ) Tar, you should talk much, do not wait until it is too late.

tar-ancalime

But of course, Gurthang! I said that we should refrain from accusing the innocent. But I also know that whomever I accuse is sure to be guilty, so no worries there.

This made me uneasy and confused. Perhaps it is just the way it was worded, but I felt this statement was a little off.

tar-ancalime

Does Eonwe's demand for explanations strike anyone else as suspicious?

Is she (he?) attempting to prevent villagers from speaking up by requiring a standard of evidence that is impossible to attain, especially on the first day? A good tactic for a wolf--convincing others to be silent with their suspicions, then preying on an uncertain populace with trumped-up "evidence" when the time is ripe.

This is more to say I agree with Eonwe. I think giving reasons for our suscipions is good. But at the same time tar makes a good point about Eonwe trying to get people to back down. The only adivice I can give here is to shout out who you think is innocent and who you think is guilty. Give the best reason you can, regardless of if it is good or not, please do not be silent. It will only cause trouble.

Gurthang

tar-ancalime: you're making me suspicious. Don't be so jumpy, and don't flip-flop so much when someone says you're wrong. And to say you have a chief suspect this early (I would consider the entire first day early) is not really a good idea. Unless, both you and Eonwe are wolves, in which case it would be a wolvish strategy. Unlikely, that is, but I'm going to keep my eye on you tar-ancalime.

I agree with you on tar having a chieg suspect so early. Though for right now I think perhaps the flip-flopping is new day jitters. Though if it continues I will take a closer look at tar. The idea of both Eonwe and Tar has wolves though. Unlikely. Unless these wolves are very confident then I do not think they'd attack one another today.

Márcolië Lamen

WE PROBABLY SHOULD TALK ABOUT STRATEGIES TO SOME DEGREE. JUST BASIC ONES AS NOT TO HELP THE WOLVES THOUGH. LIKE THE WHOLE TALKING. ITS HARDER FOR A WOLF TO HIDE AMOUNG SILENTS SINCE WE KNOW NOTHING.
GIFTED SAYING EARLY ON, BE CAREFUL WITH HINTING AND DON'T START TOO EARLY. DON'T HINT YET ON THE FIRST DAY I DON'T THINK.

I'd suggest keep away from hinting until tomorrow. And if you think you have a gifted pegged don't announce it to the village, you may be right and that could spell trouble for us. Also I don't think we're going to get a strategy in today.

Holbytlass
I'm wondering how she made up her list. Holbytlass, what made you decide to stick some people on one list instead of the other?

Hiriel

To the gifteds: I would say hint or don't hint. There is no try. If you feel like you can hint subtly enough without arousing suspecion of the wolves

I agree.

So that is what I have so far. Not a whole to go on, but hopefully it will be something for you all to go on. I will return in a few hours.

EDIT: Thank you DEATH for turning off your caps. It was beginning to bother my eyes.