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Old 09-24-2005, 06:47 AM   #1
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Once again I need to vote early or I'll never have a chance to vote.

++ Kuru

He's helpful and intelligent and wolves like to pick off intelligent helpful people yet he has survived. I also suspect phantom for this reason. Both have voted for innocents (whether the innocents were lynched or killed by wolves varies) but they remain untouched. And it seems wherever Kuru casts his supcious, an innocent dies. (the two C's, Gil, Wayne) Now they both seem to want to bring me down. Well I dare anyone in this village to vote for me. I will laugh if I die and then you can all see you've spilled some more innocent blood. Maybe then you'll decide to take a closer look at Kuru and phantom.

EDIT: Notice also that they were the only two to say "I figured Perky was our seer."
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Old 09-24-2005, 07:05 AM   #2
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And it seems wherever Kuru casts his supcious, an innocent dies. (the two C's, Gil, Wayne)
A gross exaggeration. And I wouldn't be so stupid to kill people that I have drawn attention to. And even though I voted for Wayne, I cannot recall that I was ever enthusiastic about killing him. Besides this tends to prove my innocence in that the wolves may be trying to set me up.

I'm going to vote for...

++ KITANNA

...if for no other reason that to just be consistent.

Good luck fellow villagers.
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Old 09-24-2005, 08:07 AM   #3
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Uh, that theory of mine I posted above is really badly represented, sorry. Now that I have more time, I've found some more evidence and I try to explain it a little better.

Boromir, Marcolie & Kitanna have all suspected each other just in a way that they don't get each other lynched but also so that it isn't too obvious that they're in cahoots.

These are the votes from the day before yesterday:
Gil-Galad -> Gil-Galad
Eonwe -> Kuruharan
spawn -> Gil-Galad
Celuien -> Gil-Galad
Anguirel -> Celuien
the phantom -> WaynetheGoblin
Lalaith -> Celuien
Boromir88 -> Wayne
Kitanna -> Wayne [Gil 3, Wayne 3]
Wayne -> Gil-Galad
Márcolië Lamen-> WaynetheGoblin [Gil 4, Wayne 4]
Azaelia of Willowbottom-> WaynetheGoblin
Kuruharan -> WaynetheGoblin

Kitanna and Marcolie both made a tie with their votes. All three voted for Wayne. It was very handy to get rid of Wayne first because it was very probable that we'd like to lynch Gil the next day. So, there would be yet another day without catching a wolf.

Boromir made it really clear that he didn't believe that Gil was a wolf but he voted for Gil anyway. The day before Boromir said that those who jump on Gil bandwagon should be watced carefully yet he himself jumped on a Wayne bandwagon. I think that on that day Gil looked really suspicious. On the next day he said:
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I'm most likely going to vote for Gil-galad tonight. Though I don't think he's a wolf, the longer we keep him around the more troublesome he may become. Though if he turns out a wolf I would suggest looking at Kitanna and Marcolie very hard. They both voted for Wayne, tying the votes each time. Trying to divert suspicion away from Gil-galad? I admit, I think this theory only holds up if Gil-galad turns out to be a wolf.
I took the liberty to bold a few things above that I consider to be very suspicious.
Lo and behold, Gil turned out to be an innocent! It must mean that Marcolie and Kitanna are as pure and innocent as the wind driven snow...

I also find this interesting:
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++ Kuru

He's helpful and intelligent and wolves like to pick off intelligent helpful people yet he has survived. I also suspect phantom for this reason. Both have voted for innocents (whether the innocents were lynched or killed by wolves varies) but they remain untouched.
And why isn't Boromir on the list, if I may ask?

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I'm beginning to wonder why Boromir88, the phantom, and myself have all survived this long.
According to my theory: Boromir is a wolf and therefore hasn't been killed. According to phantom: Kuru and phantom will turn on each other -> much quarrelling -> we end up lynching innocents. And according to my theory again (I already said this in my previous post): Azaelia's death was supposed to prove Kitanna and/or Marcolie's innocence.
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Old 09-24-2005, 08:37 AM   #4
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Well, I guess it's about time to say a few things...How quickly things can change.

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I'm beginning to wonder why Boromir88, the phantom, and myself have all survived this long.~Kuru
I think since we haven't been right and are not pointing at the right people they have had not reason to kill us yet.

Also, it's much safer for a wolf to kill someone who doesn't say a whole lot. An innocent who sort of hangs around and doesn't leave a big trail to follow, if lets say myself would be killed by wolves people would immediately look as to who I was suspecting. It would be too dangerous for a wolf to kill someone who steps out and names suspects and if we haven't been right so far there is no reason to kill me. But, if we catch a wolf tonight I wouldn't doubt if I would be one of the considered people to go.

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Boromir is practically saying that Kitanna and Marcolie (his wolf fellows?) are innocent (theory proven by the death of Azaelia) and making me look guilty. I understand the suspicion but why to say it twice while he himself voted for an innocent?~Spawn
No, you have misunderstood. As you can see I said...
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This of course I AM basing off the votes from yesterday by those who voted to tie things up with Gil and Wayne, and those who jumped to try a Gil-galad bandwagon.
I'm not disregarding anyone as innocent. What I said about which way Gil turns up, who to look at, was based purely off voting patterns from the night before. How Kittana and Marcolie had tied votes possibly to try to save their fellow wolf, therefor I said if he turned out be a wolf look at those people.

You had quickly jumped on to Gil trying to get himself out of the game, and if he was innocent (which he was) I was beginning to look at you because of that.

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Boromir, Marcolie & Kitanna have all suspected each other just in a way that they don't get each other lynched but also so that it isn't too obvious that they're in cahoots.~Spawn
On the contraire, no matter what turned out with Gil yesterday I'm still very suspicious of Kittana and Marcolie. Mostly Kittana right now as her early vote for Kuru still puzzles me.

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Boromir made it really clear that he didn't believe that Gil was a wolf but he voted for Gil anyway.~Spawn
That was because (and I also said this many times making it clear) he would only be a benefit to the wolves. The wolves weren't going to kill him, he wasn't going to provide any help for us, the sooner we lynched him the better. The more and more days we let him get passed the lynchings he would only keep on popping up as a suspect, creating division in the voting and only being beneficial to the wolves. Also, if he turned out to be a wolf we would all feel very stupid. My thinking was the longer we waited to lynch Gil-galad the tougher a decision would be, and if we were going to do it (even if he was innocent) it was because it would be beneficial to the village. I wouldn't think wolves would kill someone who's not being any help to us, and keeps popping up day in and day out as a possible wolf.

More thoughts later, on who I want to view today.
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Old 09-24-2005, 10:26 AM   #5
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If no one is behind my Eonwe campaign, than I shall, with reluctance, vote for Boromir tonight. But I really can't see why my arguments against him (Eonwe) are scarcely being even considered...

I fear death with every approaching eve. This could be my last chance to catch a villager I am convinced is a lycanthrope. Must I outline my denunciation more times?

Boromir speaks with the rational accent of one above reproach, and it can no longer quell my uneasiness; though there is something in his explanation of why the wolves aren't killing loudmouths.
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Old 09-24-2005, 11:05 AM   #6
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If no one is behind my Eonwe campaign, than I shall, with reluctance, vote for Boromir tonight.
I have pondered this Eonwe thing for a couple of days and right now he seems sincere. But by all means, vote as you like. I for one will probably have to vote for Boromir if he can't convince me otherwise.
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Old 09-24-2005, 12:41 PM   #7
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I hate to say it, Anguirel, but your vote yesterday for Eonwe was one of my possible wolf-for-wolf voting possibilities, and if you back off now and go after Boro who has come out of nowhere to become a lynching target suddenly- that looks a bit suspicious.

But, of course, if Boro turns out to be a wolf and Eonwe innocent then you'll look pretty smart.

I've got something I've got to do, but I'll be back as quick as I can to say more. If you don't have to vote right away, hold off until I'm back.
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Old 09-24-2005, 12:48 PM   #8
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I'm sorry, fellow villagers. I realise that today is a really vital day for considered thought and careful voting, but real life events have conspired against me, I'm just grabbing a few seconds to come on here now. Having wanted to assess properly the post-Gil scenario, I now find I haven't the time to give all this the proper thought it deserves.
Anguirel, I'm kind of inclined to accept your explanations - for now. Like I said, I'm feeling more trusting to Kitanna, and Marcolie, too, I suppose, than yesterday. This new Boromir theory looks interesting but I just don't have the time to go back over the posts and so on to consider it, so I'll pass on that for now.
So, as I can't come back tonight, I'm going to go for
++Kuruharan
I'm not feeling as confident as I'd like about this and I really hope I'm not contributing to some new fiasco, but it's the best I can do.
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