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Old 09-23-2005, 09:55 PM   #1
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I'm beginning to wonder why Boromir88, the phantom, and myself have all survived this long. For me, it is truly something of a puzzle because I'm innocent and the wolves know it. Why wouldn't they want to get rid of me? Is it because I've been wrong about everything? I've seriously suspected (at some point or other) practically everybody but Boromir88, so at some point I must have suspected somebody who is guilty. On the other hand, have I been spared because I am such a promiscuous suspector? Or is it because I've been on the right track the whole time and they are afraid of killing me because it would point back to them?

I can readily think of a reason why both Boromir88 and the phantom would both still be alive...perhaps it is time I begin seriously suspecting Boromir88.

Anyway, I recall saying something at some point that if Gil-Galad was innocent we'd want to take a look at Kitanna. Perhaps we should follow the phantom's suggestion and endeavor to put both Kitanna and Marc on the spot today. Of course, if he is a wolf then he is probably trying bump off two more innocents.

Unfortunately, I'm not going to be around much toDAY. I have bigwigs in the theater and faire business to hob-nob with. I'll try to check in again in the morning and will probably have to vote then.
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Old 09-23-2005, 11:06 PM   #2
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I'm beginning to wonder why Boromir88, the phantom, and myself have all survived this long.
I have wondered when someone would ask this.

Here is a good reason why we may have survived this long (I'm assuming all three of us are innocent for this hypothesis)-

We are good thinkers and likely to be followed, and since we have yet to catch a wolf we have obviously been leading people wrong. We have pretty good powers of deduction, but we can't use them very well until at least one wolf has been found, so why would the wolves overly fear our powers of deduction at this point?

Also, the three of us (especially you and I, Kuru) are extremely likely to turn on each other when we keep surviving night after night. The wolves figure it is bound to happen- sort of like it is with SPM and I.

In truth, I suspect that you or Boro would've killed me by now if you were wolves, and you two probably suspect that I would've killed you by now if I was a wolf, and yet we are still likely to take a good shot at each other when it gets down to the final day or two, just because... I don't know. I guess just because that's what we do.

The wolves probably bet on us doing this, and now even if we are on the right track they can't just up and kill us all in the night now- it would take three nights to do it. Plus, it would clue everyone in on the fact that they had decided to kill us after all, meaning that we were getting close to the truth.

In addition, they might be afraid that one of us is the Hunter and would make an accurate kill. That is a very strong reason for them not to kill us.

Where is everyone else, though?

Come on, guys- let's hear your thoughts.
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Old 09-24-2005, 12:25 AM   #3
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Well, we now have more proof that Azaelia was the Seer dream. I would say that this absolves the phantom from suspicion; I had been considering a phantom-azaelia wolf-pack should things have turned out differently tonight.

This means, Kuru, that I believe suspicion of him will be more sterile than ever. For now, I think we should listen, hear and obey...

Here's a new list.


Anguirel- I'm heartened to see no one really wants to hang me anymore. If I were you lot, though, I'd be rather suspicious that the wolves haven't killed me yet. But I can't help not being dead. Yet.

Boromir88-Something in Kuru's thesis, it must be said. This is the first day I've suspected him.

Dancing Spawn - implicated in the Gil-Galad fiasco. But can't help thinking she's too subtle to dirty her hands so obviously. Possible though.

Eonwe -has not proved his innocence one jot. Is still my highest suspect. Perhaps, perhaps, people will believe me today. That was no wolf-wolf vote-I'm after him, pure and simple.

Kitanna- Suspected by the phantom! She must be a wolf! Not implicated in Gil-Galad fiasco. Could be as wolfish as not.

Kuruharan-as he himself says, curious that he's still here. Is that a bit of double-bluffing? Still, some of what he says makes sense.

Lalaith- not much on her...inclined to trust her largely because...er...her name is pretty...

Márcolië Lamen-Possible, but as my ally I will not accuse her till we have some wolf-corpses elsewhere

the phantom- Cleared. Seriously, he's been right so far, and if he's a wolf he deserves the game...


That makes me highest triumvirate Eonwe, Boromir, and Kitanna...

Once again I will probably vote for Eonwe.
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Old 09-24-2005, 01:14 AM   #4
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I'm sorry this is so rushed but I'm in a terrible haste right now. I'm sorry to say this but Boromir looks rather suspicious to me right now.

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If he turns out to be a wolf, look at Kitanna, Marcolie, and Azaelia.

If he turns out to be innocent, look at Spawn.
This of course I AM basing off the votes from yesterday by those who voted to tie things up with Gil and Wayne, and those who jumped to try a Gil-galad bandwagon.
How is it better to be involved in Wayne bandwagon than Gil bandwagon?

Boromir is practically saying that Kitanna and Marcolie (his wolf fellows?) are innocent (theory proven by the death of Azaelia) and making me look guilty. I understand the suspicion but why to say it twice while he himself voted for an innocent?

I've had my suspicions about Marcolie and Kitanna before and here are some quotes that would support the theory of an alliance between Boromir, Kitanna & Marcolie All three aren't necessarily wolves. There might be two lycans in this trio who are just using the third one. [QUOTE=Boromir]Marcolie, I've found this alliance between Anguriel and Marcolie to be very disturbing. I think one is a wolf, the other is innocent.I doubt both are wolves because it would just be far to suspicious and leave them with no flexibility. I right now am more thinking Anguirel is the wolf because of the no voting from yesterday, and some more reasons I'll mention later. So, either Marcolie or Anguirel is a wolf who is trying to attach to an innocent, this "truce" gets me worried. I'm more inclined to believe Marcolie is the innocent one, but something I'll be watching.]
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Kitanna, not sure what to think of her yet. She's kind of gone passed my radar which gets me suspicious and I will certainly be taking a closer look at her, though right now I have more strongly held suspicions.
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Boromir88-Doesn't seem suspicious, if a wolf a talented one.
Kitanna- Very good at avoiding suspicion. I half need to cast suspision only for this carefulness.
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a little more suspicious, yet nothing really concrete or definite (#107) Kitanna, Lalaith, Celuien, Cailin, Azaelia, Marcolie
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Least suspicious so far (#166) Boromir88, Kitanna, Kuruharan
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Old 09-24-2005, 02:26 AM   #5
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So poor Gil was innocent - but his death has at least made a few things clearer. Azaelia's death sadly tells me nothing - she was an obvious wolf target.
I've looked through what everyone's been saying and it seems Gil's death is not telling us the same things. His being innocent actually makes two of my chief suspects of yesterday, Kitanna and Marcolie look less suspicious to me, not more. They were clearly not trying to save a fellow wolf.
Kuru still looks suspicious, however.
I'm looking at everyone else again as well. There's Anguirel for example, who in post 251 names Gil as one of his "unholy triumvirate" and then a little bit later defends him to the hilt as an innocent. I don't really get his Eonwe obsession, either. Eonwe seems fairly blameless to me.

But I must go now, I will be back in about six or seven hours, (my) late afternoon, when hopefully more of you will be around.
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Old 09-24-2005, 03:54 AM   #6
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Spawn's words-despite my not having cleared her-are rather convincing. Her triumvirate happens to coincide fairly nearly with mine, except that I, of course, am blinkered by my "Eonwe obsession..." and my Marcolie pact.

You see, if he had been innocent, I believe Eonwe would have bought it tonight. My last suspect, Celuien, was shredded the night after I voted for her; the fact that this did not recur with Eonwe's outwardly similar situation-lone vote, little support for campaign, off the wall choice-leads me to think that this time I've hit the mark.

The ease of getting me lynched that the death of Eonwe would have ensured would be far more valulable than the death of quiet Azaelia, who could always be dealt with later and was still suspected by those who distrusted the phantom's thesis.

Lalaith correctly identifies my inconsistency yesterday. All I can say is that "the old order changeth, yielding to the new"; Gil-Galad went from a wolf suspect, in my mind, to something approaching a proven innocent, in sharp contrast to Eonwe who only got more suspicious. Hence my "Albatross" appeal.

I'd be ready to compromise on Kitanna or Boromir to test Spawn's theory, though I'd still rather vote for Eonwe. Of Kitanna and Boromir, I now suspect Boromir more (yes, another change of my fickle mind); he's such an untouchable good fella, he's just bound to have fangs.
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Old 09-24-2005, 06:18 AM   #7
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the phantom- Cleared. Seriously, he's been right so far, and if he's a wolf he deserves the game...
Be ashamed to speak such heresy. He has not been right so far and he does not deserve to win. Are you and he in cahoots or something?

Anyway, I'm going to have to be leaving for the DAY in about an hour. I'm probably going to vote for Kitanna or Marcolie. Hopefully something will happen to guide my vote by then.
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