Werewolf X: The One Saga to Rule them All!

[Boromir88]

Ok, so here's some further thoughts.

Through somep prior experiences, wolves typically like to do two things, divert and bandwagon.

1) Divert- usually do it with their votes, or with their kills at night. In voting of course, try to swing voting away from one person to another. Or, with their kills at night, trying to "frame" people or set others up. Of course they don't want to kill someone who has suspected them, so they kill someone who's said nothing about them and sets others up.

2) Bandwagon- the only problem with this one is that wolves are safe when bandwagonning. I doubt early in the game wolves would try to take control of the situation (that's why I doubt Kuru or phantom are wolves). Wolves like to bandwagon because it's safe, and it's very hard to distinguish a bandwagonning wolf from, and innocent who is convinced by the evidence and bandwagons. Perhaps later on when innocents to wolf ration gets slimmer wolves will start speaking out and trying to manipulate, but I doubt a wolf would try early on. Or atleast from my typical experience, the ones who are the more vocal and try to find the wolves, aren't wolves, because once people start realizing they're leading us into killing innocents they're screwed. So, typically in the beginning wolves like to lay low, and go along with the flow, until innocents start slimming out and then they strike.

Again, these are just ideas, and what I've noticed the typical wolf to do, doesn't mean Kuru or the phantom aren't wolves, but typically a wolf wouldn't jump out of the gates early and try to manipulate.

I will go through yesterday's voting, and lastnights kill, to see who fits these best.

Also, I agree with Eonwe, on the Gil situation. I think he's being sincere, and isn't a wolf, but it's still a lose lose situation. If we lynch him, our chances are he's another innocent bringing us down 7-3. If we don't lynch him the wolves aren't going to kill him, thing is if we do lynch him, a night will be wasted when we could try to find a wolf. This is again, assuming that he isn't a wolf, as I doubt from what he's said that he is a wolf. If he is pulling our leg, it's a cruel and mean thing to do, but I doubt he is, and think he's innocent.

If we keep putting of Gil, then the decision with what to do with him only gets harder, and I agree with phantom in that someone who causes so much confusion, the wolves wouldn't want to kill.

[Kuruharan]

I have to go now. I'm about as unsure now as I've ever been but I'm going to go ahead and vote...

++ KITANNA

...if for no other reason than I have suspected her for a long time and may as well do something to act on it.

Even so, I kind of wish something would happen to resolve our Gil situation. However, I'm afraid of "wasting" my vote on what seems like an easy choice everyone can bandwagon on.

Good luck to my fellow villagers!

[Anguirel]

Gil-Galad, my friends, is our town's Albatross.

He is noticeable, strange, and rather depressing.

However, killing him would just make things worse. I do not wish to wander the seas, or earth, or anywhere else, with the acrobat's corpse round my neck.

Now Eonwe, on the other hand, is a shark...so much so that I almost, as of reflex, plonked a ++ in that bracket...

[Boromir88]

Ok, so I know this has been posted but it's just to help clear out my thoughts. Here's the voting from yesterday...

Gil-Galad -> Gil-Galad
Eonwe -> Kuruharan
spawn -> Gil-Galad
Celuien -> Gil-Galad
Anguirel -> Celuien
the phantom -> WaynetheGoblin
Lalaith -> Celuien
Boromir88 -> Wayne
Kitanna -> Wayne [Gil 3, Wayne 3]
Wayne -> Gil-Galad
Márcolië Lamen-> WaynetheGoblin [Gil 4, Wayne 4]
Azaelia of Willowbottom-> WaynetheGoblin
Kuruharan -> WaynetheGoblin

I'm most likely going to vote for Gil-galad tonight. Though I don't think he's a wolf, the longer we keep him around the more troublesome he may become. Though if he turns out a wolf I would suggest looking at Kitanna and Marcolie very hard. They both voted for Wayne, tying the votes each time. Trying to divert suspicion away from Gil-galad? I admit, I think this theory only holds up if Gil-galad turns out to be a wolf.

I would also look at Azaelia, as she voted for Wayne putting him in the lead, again trying to divert attention away from a fellow wolf? So, if Gil turns out to be a wolf, I'd take a hard look at Azaelia. I disagree with phantom, and though Perky may have dreamed about her, I'm not taking anything for sure at this stage in the game.

I also said yesterday I would be looking at those who quickly jumped on against Gil-galad. If Gil-galad turns out to be innocent, I would turn my suspicion to Spawn, who quickly in voting yesterday jumped on.

I also think Lalaith's vote for Celiuen is a bandwagoning attempt on Anguirel. As far as I know (though I could be wrong) I don't think Lalaith was too suspicious of Celuien before she voted.

So, here's my thoughts...

Assuming Gil-galad gets lynched today...

If he turns out to be a wolf, look at Kitanna, Marcolie, and Azaelia.

If he turns out to be innocent, look at Spawn.

Whatever the case I think we should start looking more into Lalaith.

[Lalaith]

I was deciding whether vote for Gil or Kitanna, when something Kitanna said about Kuru struck a chord with me.

he has twisted a few of my posts around making me look guilty.

Tell me about it, love.

So I'm going to vote ++GILGALAD

Kitanna, I'm still suspecting you, mind. But I'm going to think very hard about Kuru tomorrow too, if we all survive the night, that is.

Oh and Boro, I think you'll find Celuien was in my quartet of suspects early on in the day yesterday.

[Márcolië Lamen]

On the whole Gil issue, I still feel he is innocent....But he would be one of the few who'd attempt a bluff such as what he did.

As Anguriel has said

Gil-Galad, my friends, is our town's Albatross.

I think this isn't exactly what he is, but an albatross is more likely than a wolf to me. At least now.

I think we have others I need to focus more on than Gil. Trying to logically figur e him out won't work. I'm not sure about him, but feel others are probably more worthy of our votes.

So Gil in all isn't useful to have here but a life we may be wasting...

I'll post more later, need to go feed my pet turtles now though.

[Lalaith]

Just to keep track of things, and avoid a double lynching:

The votes as things stand -

Anguirel -1
Kuruharan -1
Kitanna -1
Gil-Galad -2

Five of us have voted. Six are still to vote.

[Anguirel]

My reasons for distrusting Eonwe-

1. Haven't forgiven that suspicious tie-forger

2. Haven't felt much weight in his contributions

3. Feel, based on our records, that he has most to gain from Celuien's death and my disgrace

4. Find his defence of Gil-Galad, which I agree with, a suspicious attempt to ingratiate

5. Know that if he's a wolf, I'll go from Gaurwaith to hero (Eru, I might even get de-outlawed and knighted!)

6. Know if he isn't a wolf, no one will want to lynch me-what wolf would be so stupid as to vote and put up a case for an alternative canditate with the innocent within their grasp?

7. For if Gil-Galad is no albatross, but a wolf, then I am the King at Nargothrond!

8. I appreciate the irony of Gil-Galad running after me and my defending him and running after Eonwe...

9. I seriously doubt anyone will back me up before it's too late so this will remain a fine, romantic, quixotic gesture

++EONWE

[Lalaith]

Eonwe, I don't know why you particularly want me to explain my vote rather than anyone else, but I don't mind explaining.
I am suspicious of what happened at the end of play last night.
Many of us villagers agree that Gil is causing confusion. Finding out whether Gil is innocent or guilty will solve many questions, particularly about yesterday's voting chaos.
I also thought I might vote for Kitanna because her actions during the voting were very suspicious. But I had a last-minute flash of empathy because she, like me, has been bullied by Kuru. I just hope I don't end up regretting my soft-heartedness.

Does that help?

Oh and vote update:

Anguirel -1
Kuruharan -1
Kitanna -1
Gil-Galad -2
Eonwe - 1

Six of us have voted. Five are still to vote.

[Eonwe]

Lalaith, thanks that does indeed help. i didn't have allot of time at the moment and only got around to the last couple posts. so im not just interested in your voting techniques, just all i had time to ask about. (now that you mention it, i might be able to conseed that some things will be cleared up about last Evening.) (and im glad i wasn't involved in that whole muck )

Anguirel:

1. Haven't forgiven that suspicious tie-forger

pure accident, i assure you. four minute earlier and i dont' think there would be a case against me on that count.

2. Haven't felt much weight in his contributions

umm....just speak my mind. and voted the same.

3. Feel, based on our records, that he has most to gain from Celuien's death and my disgrace

how so? i have had nothing against celuien ever. or you for that matter.

4. Find his defence of Gil-Galad, which I agree with, a suspicious attempt to ingratiate

not really. those are just my thoughts on the matter of gil.

6 and 7 have me a bit mistified though.

[Eonwe]

i'm getting more and more confused. nothing seems to be adding up. ill prolly be waiting until near the last minute to vote, to see what develops. boromir has somewhat passified me, but i still can't let suspicion die. nothing has really changed with my opinion of the phantom and kuru, although nothing has really materialized against them.

this is Anguirel in 258

Now Eonwe, on the other hand, is a shark...so much so that I almost, as of reflex, plonked a ++ in that bracket...

im glad you didn't. could you tell me what makes me suspicios, maybe i can speak to it. all i have done is spoken and voted my mind.

Lalaith, could you tell me why you suspect gil and kitanna. and why you suspect gil more. just curious, of course.

i would really discourage voting gil, who i feel to be innocent. other than that, i don't really have much more to say. im feeling kind of torn in mind........

[the phantom]

I'm really wrestling with this decision, but I have to make it now or not vote at all.

The way I see it, if we don't take care of Gil today he will once again be up for lynching the next day, the day after that, and then the day after that. So, he is a distraction to me, and also I'd feel like a fool if we don't lynch him and he turns out to be a wolf.

On the other hand, there are a couple of people who I might suspect more than him, since he hasn't really given me much to work with. In addition, it's possible that the wolves didn't try to save him yesterday because they figured he was a lost cause, thus his death wouldn't be as informative as we hope even if he is a wolf.

But, if he is a wolf he needs to be killed.

To be honest, I am a bit suspicious of most everyone and no one is firmly in the lead. Once we bag a wolf, my suspicion list will fall in line, but until then everyone is somewhat even in my mind, except Azalia who I still think the Seer dreamed of.

So, since no one is firmly in the lead, it makes sense to me to vote for someone who has been a prime lynching candidate in the past because, if he is a wolf, the voting might tell us who other wolves are.

So, here it goes-

+ + Gil

Don't let a double lynching happen.