Werewolf X: The One Saga to Rule them All!

[Glirdan]

Glirdan walked back into the café just as Kuru was finishing his theory. "So, are you all going to start thinking I'm a wolf for, as Kuru kindly put it, giving non-substantive theories?" Glirdan asked the room. "I can tell you now and for a fact that I'm innocent. Of course the only way you'd be able to find that out would be to lynch me, but then you'd all be terribly sorry because you would have lynched one of your own. I have no actual evidence that you are a wolf," he said to Kuru. " Who here has evidence that any of us is a wolf, unless it be the Seer. But we have to start somewhere and the best place to start is to go back to when all the trouble began, which was when you came with your faire." He then turned to Cailin. "Give me something stronger than my usual please." Everyone stared at him as he went and sat in the cornere of the café.

[Celuien]

I've been working on a list of villagers whom I think we should not lynch toDAY, and it looks pretty similar to the phantom's, with the addition of The Perky Ent, who seems like he's being pretty genuine.

Categories are as follows:

Either most likely innocent or otherwise good to keep around for now:
the phantom
Anguirel
Boromir88
Kuru
Dancing Spawn
The Perky Ent

Talkative villagers I'm not sure what to think of yet:
Glirdan
Calin
Márcolië
Lalaith
Kitanna

Villagers who haven't said enough to sway me in either direction:
Gil-Galad
Eonwe
Wayne the Goblin
Azaelia

I think that accounts for everyone.

From the second list, I'm most inclined to suspect Glirdan. His comments struck me the same way as they did Kuru, especially since I think would be unwise to eliminate Kuru so early. However, I'm not particularly inclined to vote for him yet just on the basis of those comments. We're all stabbing in the dark right now, which is why I don't find the accusation cause for that much alarm.

Gil-Galad could merely be a "heartless womanizer" but it strikes me as odd that he hasn't replied to my questions yet. I'm awaiting his response...

[Kitanna]

Of those who have spoken I'm trying to decide how to view Gil. He is acting strangely, but he's always acting strangely so it is hard to decide if it is his usual strangeness or a new strangeness brought on my nightly changes...mmmmm.

Celuien, your idea for making people speak up is both good and bad. If people have more to say in their posts rather then just a sentence or two then it can be easier to spot a wolf. However ig everyone just posts and they really say very little in their posts the chances of lynching an innocent instead of a wolf are high. I would like to hear more from Wayne and Gil of those who have already posted and also I want to see what those who haven't posted have to say. (or has everyone posted already?)

That said. I defiantly think phantom, Kuru, and Boromir should be kept alive for the time being. They are all intelligent people and can be very helpful, provided they're not wolves. It's better to watch them for a couple of days before sending them to the gallows.

[Glirdan]

Originally posted by Kitanna
That said. I defiantly think phantom, Kuru, and Boromir should be kept alive for the time being.

"Yes, I agree with keeping Boro and phantom around. As I've already said, something that phantom said really made me see his innocence.

I think it's about time I killed them- or at least die trying. I will regain my lost honor."

I spotted something in there that made me think of something. Give a wink if you caught it to. Anyway, I'm not to trustworthy of Kuru. I know there's not enough evidence to accuse him, I just have a gut feeling that he's not to be trusted.

I would like to hear more from Wayne and Gil of those who have already posted and also I want to see what those who haven't posted have to say. (or has everyone posted already?)

Agreed once again. We need to hear more from these two. Wayne's only said something once and it wasn't exactly helpful. Gil's barely said anything either, and he's been sitting next to you this entire time!!! Zali's the only one who's been silent. I wonder why???...." Glirdan said as he trailed off into thought.

[Cailín]

Cailín pondered out loud while mixing an exceptionally strong cocktail for poor Glirdan...

"I must say all theories up till now seem a little non-substantive. You can never make a good argument without evidence, and we don't even seem to have clear reasons to suspect each other. The phantom suggests - to say it in a more brutal manner - to get rid of all stupid people first. But people we already find convincing today will have a far easier time deceiving us as this tragedy develops. I do quite agree with him, though (I never thought I'd be caught agreeing with the local drunk), but just because today, there seems to be little else we can do."

She kindly offered Celuien a glass of wine as well.

"Your list, dear frog-keeper, does not really reflect my ideas. Aside from the fact that I'd like to keep myself around - if only to get everyone else drunk - Lalaith would also be one of the people who has not said anything substantial yet. And why all such fans of Anguirel, who has done nothing more than attempt to rob us of our precious savings? But still, you are the first of us to actually make a list, which I suppose is only to be praised."

She casts a quick glance at Gil.

"Already our womanizer is under a lot of suspicion, especially by the -well- women. Are we sure this is not plain annoyance or jealousy? I must say I find Glirdan to be really too aggressive towards Kuru, but I think it's just a slight case of xenophobia."

She cleared her throat.

"Well, as you can see, I am not accusing anyone just yet. I intend to wait for responses of those who are under suspicion already and then vote for someone completely out of the blue. If the wolves are surprised by the voting behavior of the villagers, they are more likely to slip up in the hope to save one of their fellows."

[The Perky Ent]

Yes, it is rather odd for Gil-Galad to suddenly be posting little to nothing. But all the same, he hasn't struck me either way.

Originally Posted by Um...i forgot who said it

I defiantly think phantom, Kuru, and Boromir should be kept alive for the time being. They are all intelligent people and can be very helpful, provided they're not wolves.

May Eru be with us if they are!

Originally Posted by Celurian(sp?)

Even if visibility gives them a way to attack an innocent, at least the attack gives the others something to go on too.

At first glance, it sounded like something a wolf would say, but reading the full paragraph, i see her(?) point. Also...

Originally Posted by Master of Aklai la'Gadis

Also, notice how Perky Doesn't deny his(?) chance of being a werebeast. If he(?) knew himself(?) to be innocent why would he(?) include himself in the list?... though it is too early to be drawing any conclusions from anything.

Now, is it a werewolf throwing out suspicousions away from himself, or just an idea that wasn't thought out very well? Anguirel doesn't strike me as a werewolf. IMO, I think he's the ranger (ironic twist?), though Phantom seems to have taken the job of town defender, as his copious information sways us all. Just some little thoughts I wanted to jott down

[The Perky Ent]

Originally Posted by Phantom

think it's about time I killed them- or at least die trying. I will regain my lost honor."

As Glirdan brings up, he seems innocent. He sertainly has been very helpful, and none of us would want to see him die. However, this is after all, a game of lying and deception. If the Phantom is really a werewolf, he certainly plays it well, as non of us seem to suspect him. That's why I brought up the quote. It's convincing. Too convicing. But, despite that, I have no intention of lynching Phantom for the time being. I shall have to meditate on it!

[Lalaith]

Good people of Tinseltown, is it really such a good idea to be discussing or hinting at who you think may be gifted among us? Remember that some of us are not what they seem and could use this information in their deadly night-time work.

I agree that vocal people are more useful than silent ones. But I also think that innocents will be seeking to clarify and wolves to confuse. So I, for one, will be more suspicious of those whose posts confuse me.

[Celuien]

I don't know how I missed that on the list. but post 66 has the same idea.

Originally Posted by The Perky Ent

As Glirdan brings up, he seems innocent. He sertainly has been very helpful, and none of us would want to see him die. However, this is after all, a game of lying and deception. If the Phantom is really a werewolf, he certainly plays it well, as non of us seem to suspect him. That's why I brought up the quote. It's convincing. Too convicing. But, despite that, I have no intention of lynching Phantom for the time being. I shall have to meditate on it!

[Boromir88]

I'm not sure if voting behavior is something we should think strongly on. While voting behavior may be a strong determinant in who is a wolf and who isn't later down the road. Yesterday's voting seemed more random. From what I've been reading from a lot of the posts with the votes on it (including mine) no one was really sure on their decisions and and with that randomness everyone's vote looks suspicious. (Some maybe more than others though). I mean my reason for voting for Gil-galad was rather flimsical, but to me it was the most suspicious thing I've seen all day.

The only clue I've seen as far as voting behavior goes could be those who did not vote. Anguirel, and Gil-galad. Again, I'm excluding Azaelia, possibility she's still a wolf, but as far as those who did not vote I think she can be excused because of her absense that day.

I think we should focus more on the context of people's post. For instance, Wayne is someone that's looking suspicious to me...He says this at the beginning of today...

We are not doing well if we dont get a wolf soon we will lose.

That is an admirable statement, shows that we must catch a wolf soon or we'll lose, yet he's said nothing as to help us catch a wolf. Or atleast he's said stuff that's already been previously stated. So far, I've seen very little from his posts, he acts like he wants to catch a wolf, but does very little to help the cause. To me this looks suspicious.

So far my list (in order)-

1) Gil-galad
2) Anguirel
3) Wayne

Maybe after today's vote we can start looking for voting patterns and things like that. But, yesterday's votes everyone seemed far to lost on who to vote for, and far to random (I think) for us to strongly base our suspicions off of the votes from yesterday, atleast at this point.

[Eonwe]

Boromir, im not really sure that because someone doesn't do anything to help catch a wolf they are to be stamped as "suspected". I mean what has anyone really done to help catch wolves as yet. Wayne could just be bideing his time. (although it seems as if he was not very talkative/informative last time). just a thought.

[Márcolië Lamen]

The loss of our seer will hurt our village extreme amounts. Hopefully we'll manage to recover at least some.

I don't know whether to post this in this game thread, but today I got a migraine and thus was not able to come on before now. Now I am off to read some of our Gadian (*cough*American literautre *cough*) history. I will not be able to come on before noon tomarrow because of this being midterm week in the Gadian university. I am truely sorry if this looks to be wolvish behavior.

Now for one more rushed listing before I must go.


Anguirel- I still feel Anguirel is most suspicious, increased by the non-voting yesterday.
Azealia of Willowbottom-not enough to access, need to be watched but not more than the average.
Boromir88- Doesn't seem suspicious at the moment, yet the fact this is managed still deams watching
Celuien-vaguely suspicious, less so than yesterday with the death of the other of the dueling Cs. Could she have influenced Cailin's death because of her wolvish status?
Dancing Spawn of Ungoliant- more suspicious than yesterday. Was very outright in posting towards the end of yesterday. First to vote.
Eonwe- May be just new, but has had an overall suspicous feeling. Then yesterday he cast the vote making it a double lynching. Could it have been a plan? I don't think a wolf would be so outright with the double lynching, especially so early, but still requires watching.
Gil-Galad- Han't posted much. Suspicious amounts. Also didn't vote. Suspicious.
Kitanna- Been good of avoiding suspision. I'd watch her, but at this point not call her anything above the normal.
Kuruharan-Seems one of the most helpful so far. If a wolf definitally hiding it with fake help. One of lesser suspisions at the moment.
Lalaith- hides among the others and follows their posts. Very wolvish behavoir. I'm watching out for Lalaith
Márcolië Lamen-I know I am innocent. I'd even offer my place to help the village, though it'd just be wasting a lynch.
the phantom- More suspicoius than yesterday because of late voting mainly. Less so than some others though.
WaynetheGoblin- hasn't been helping. Needs to post more and explain more. Suspicious.

Most Suspicious
Anguirel
Gil-Galad
Lalaith

Suspicious but less-so
Dancing Spawn of Ungoliant
WaynetheGoblin

Slightly less
Celuien
Dancing Spawn of Ungoliant
Eonwe
the phantom

Least suspicious so far
Boromir88
Kitanna
Kuruharan

NEA
Azealia of Willowbottom

Known Innocent
Márcolië Lamen

All lists alphabetical. Order for top three in that order however.

[Celuien]

"Thank you for the wine, Cailin. It's very good.

I can summarize the rational behind my points in one sentence, Perky and Cailin: We can't make theories without data anymore than we can make bricks without clay. And the only way to get said data is to have a conversation. Nothing wolvish about it.

And I think my entire paragraph should be re-quoted, just so there's no confusion.

Originally Posted by Me

What I mean is that we've all got to come out with some ideas and force the wolves to do the same so that at least it gives us something to go on to find them. Even if visibility gives them a way to attack an innocent, at least the attack gives the others something to go on too. Who led or bandwagoned against a vocal and potentially wolf-endangering innocent? As opposed to charging against a quieter villager, which doesn't give us as much information to analyze since it's harder to figure out motives behind the choice. I'm willing to take the chance of being accused and, yes, even lynched, if it gives us something to go after the wolves on.

To clarify, if the wolves use vocalness as a reason to launch an attack and that leads to a lynching, at least we as villagers have more data to form a theory than we would have if they had attacked a silent one.

I know that there are reasons other than wolvishness to lay low, and I'm keeping that in mind."

[dancing spawn of ungoliant]

Please, people, let the wolves do their own thinking. Do not say who you think to be gifted villagers. Unless... but it's too dangerous and a little unfair, too.

Originally Posted by Glirdan

"So, are you all going to start thinking I'm a wolf for, as Kuru kindly put it, giving non-substantive theories?" Glirdan asked the room. "I can tell you now and for a fact that I'm innocent. Of course the only way you'd be able to find that out would be to lynch me, but then you'd all be terribly sorry because you would have lynched one of your own.

Little snappish, are we? Innocent villagers don't have to defend themselves so furiously. Hmm. I'm not completely contented with Glirdan's behaviour.

[Glirdan]

Little snappish, are we? Innocent villagers don't have to defend themselves so furiously. Hmm. I'm not completely contented with Glirdan's behaviour.

"I would beg to differ with that. Innocent villagers who fear for their lives do have to defend themselves so furiously. I will not sit here and take being accused idly. I am sure you would have done the same. If you are not contented with my behaviour, then vote for me. Now, tell me, would a wolf tell you to vote for him?" he turned to Cailin. "Thank you my dear. Could I have another, or anything stornger if you have it?"

[Lalaith]

*points up* - double-posted with dancing spawn.

Clearly we are thinking along the same lines, Madam Spawn.

[The Perky Ent]

Originally Posted by the glir who be dan

Now, tell me, would a wolf tell you to vote for him

Don't think of it as such an obvious answer. The minds of the wolves three work in many ways. Who knows what they ponder in their mind's eye. As stated before

Originally Posted by phantom

Confusion is a friend of the wolves

They want us to be confused, so that we might wrongly accuse. Of course, if someone stole my hypothetital t-shirt and danced around Tinseltown (My hypothetital T-shirt says : I'm a WEREWOLF! LYNCH ME, PLEASE!!! . That was my retorical responce to why I added myself to the list of suspects) , they woudl be heavily investigated. I would really like to hear from Boromir about his suspicions!

[Glirdan]

*points up* - double-posted with dancing spawn.

Clearly we are thinking along the same lines, Madam Spawn.

"Who's post would you be pointing to Lalaith?" Glirdan asked. "It would seem like you are pointing to me and saying the same thing about me as Spawn. Are you?"

[Kitanna]

Originally Posted by Glirdan

"I would beg to differ with that. Innocent villagers who fear for their lives do have to defend themselves so furiously. I will not sit here and take being accused idly. I am sure you would have done the same. If you are not contented with my behaviour, then vote for me. Now, tell me, would a wolf tell you to vote for him?"

Defending yourself so furiously only makes people think you are hiding something from the rest of us. It is dangerous to defend yourself too much just as it is too defend yourself too little. It makes people wonder, Glirdan.

[The Perky Ent]

And yet, for some reason, despite his many suspicions, I do not think Glirdan is a werewolf. Just a grumpy ordo. I shall have to look closer into post from now on, as we draw closer to a decision

[Glirdan]

Defending yourself so furiously only makes people think you are hiding something from the rest of us. It is dangerous to defend yourself too much just as it is too defend yourself too little. It makes people wonder, Glirdan.

Yes, I know I am being rather hot headed but I am defending myself as I see fit. I can't exactly prove to you that I'm innocent unless the Seer decides to reveal himself/herself or I get lynched or attacked during the night. But I am telling you, I'm innocent and if you want to get the wolves I suggest you look at people other than me. What about those who've said to much or to little? What about Zali, Wayne and Gil?" he said turning to look at the other villagers in turn. "We need to get more say from those three. We've still heard nothing from and no deffense from Gil or Wayne and there's only 6 hours and 41 minutes left before we have to decide." he said as he trailed back into thought.

[dancing spawn of ungoliant]

Originally Posted by Glirdan

"I would beg to differ with that. Innocent villagers who fear for their lives do have to defend themselves so furiously. I will not sit here and take being accused idly. I am sure you would have done the same. If you are not contented with my behaviour, then vote for me. Now, tell me, would a wolf tell you to vote for him?"

Well, we just have to agree to disagree, then. And yes, that's what a wolf could say.

Originally Posted by Lalaith

Clearly we are thinking along the same lines, Madam Spawn.

So it seems. If you have any theories, I'd be interested to hear them. Actually, this concerns everyone.

You know, there are people who have talked less than Wilwa and she's dead...