Belling the Ring

[Bêthberry]

Originally Posted by Saucy

Er, when did I ever say that Ancient Egyptians or pagans belong in Mordor? Are you perchance assuming an imperial attitude simply by virtue of my nationality? Perhaps that's ...

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... Another bit of cross-cultural myopia.

No, actually it was by virtue of the fact you have kept promising to elaborate on your own ideas for your Doest LOTR have cross-cultural appeal? thread but so far have failed to do so.

Originally Posted by Mithalwen

Cats are beautiful, mysterious, of ancient nobility, inspiration to poets, hardy and long (nine) lived (and the houseless fea of a cat will long haunt its home - you see a flicker of tail disappearing around doors) and slightly above the ways of humans - though they graciously agree at times to spend time with us mere mortals and give us the benefit of their wisdom...

Oh dear. I'm not sure this bringing up of the number nine will help cats out, although I love your post, Mithalwen and completely agree about the houseless fea of a cat. And the sharing of their quest victories.

Originally Posted by Alatar

I think that somewhere it states that Sauron, knowing more about the Ring than any other, fears that someone, possibly one of the above mentioned, will claim the Ring, overthrow him and set up a new shop. To me this does not sound like an object that is completely a part of and loyal to Sauron. Would one be able to utterly destroy Sauron yet keep the Ring? Don't know, but it seems that Sauron fears that another worthy Ring claimer will not do the Dark Lord's bidding nor make life comfortable for the same.

Frankly, I think the Silmarils had a similar effect to the Ring in creating desire in the beholder. And that covetousness sounds very much more Eruvian than feline or even canine. That sub-creative desire to make a totally-controlled creation which is completely irresistable. I think that 'take me, have me, surrender to me' is much closer to someone who insists upon having all the music all his way than any animal could possibly suggest.

[alatar]

Originally Posted by Bêthberry

Frankly, I think the Silmarils had a similar effect to the Ring in creating desire in the beholder. And that covetousness sounds very much more Eruvian than feline or even canine. That sub-creative desire to make a totally-controlled creation which is completely irresistable. I think that 'take me, have me, surrender to me' is much closer to someone who insists upon having all the music all his way than any animal could possibly suggest.

I understand the comparison of the Ring to the Silmarils in regards to desire, yet never did it seem that the jewels made something happen, or took some action on their own. Hate to say it, but the Silmarils were more bovine as they seemed happy just sitting around chewing their cud, whether in Fëanor hands, Morgoth's crown, the sky, sea and earth.