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Gilbo · 10-10-2003, 12:21 PM

Quote:
"When the Children awake, then the thoughts of Yavanna will awake also, AND IT WILL SUMMON SPIRITS FROM AFAR, and they will go among the Kelvar and the Olvar, and SOME will dwell therein, and be held in reverence, and their just anger shall be feared"
My theory is that that SOME of the spirits became Ents, and SOME of the spirits became Bombadil and Goldberry
quote:
"...and they saw a new World made visible before them, and it was globed amid the VOID, and it was sustained therein,but was not of it."
quote:
(of Ungoliant)"The Eldar knew not whence she came; but some have said that in ages long before she descended from the DARKNESS THAT LIES ABOUT ARDA..."
We know from JRRT that Tom was not a Maia. Yet, he was a power to be reckonned with, and the Ring held no sway over him. We can infer that the Ents are not Maia because of the limited use of the power that they have, but we have seen that "spirits...dwell therein".
Theory 2. The Spirits were from the void.
Can this be compatible with what we do know about Tom? I believe it does. It also offers a clue to the disposition of the fear of the Ents that died.
Therefore, I propose that Tom and Treebeard are of the some age. Now! Let the Stone throwing begin!
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(sorry, I don't know how to work the UBB yet. Perhaps a kind Spirit will clean this up.)

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10-10-2003, 12:21 PM	#1
Gilbo Animated Skeleton Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: maryland Posts: 34	Quote: "When the Children awake, then the thoughts of Yavanna will awake also, AND IT WILL SUMMON SPIRITS FROM AFAR, and they will go among the Kelvar and the Olvar, and SOME will dwell therein, and be held in reverence, and their just anger shall be feared" My theory is that that SOME of the spirits became Ents, and SOME of the spirits became Bombadil and Goldberry quote: "...and they saw a new World made visible before them, and it was globed amid the VOID, and it was sustained therein,but was not of it." quote: (of Ungoliant)"The Eldar knew not whence she came; but some have said that in ages long before she descended from the DARKNESS THAT LIES ABOUT ARDA..." We know from JRRT that Tom was not a Maia. Yet, he was a power to be reckonned with, and the Ring held no sway over him. We can infer that the Ents are not Maia because of the limited use of the power that they have, but we have seen that "spirits...dwell therein". Theory 2. The Spirits were from the void. Can this be compatible with what we do know about Tom? I believe it does. It also offers a clue to the disposition of the fear of the Ents that died. Therefore, I propose that Tom and Treebeard are of the some age. Now! Let the Stone throwing begin! [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img] [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img] (sorry, I don't know how to work the UBB yet. Perhaps a kind Spirit will clean this up.)