Gandalf Vs. The Witch King

Originally Posted by The Only Real Estel

Posted by Mansun:


As I said, Sauron wouldn't be quite as powerful (he wouldn't be flinging twenty people a hundred yards with one swing) strength-wise, but there's no telling what his apperance would've done mentally to the army.

They were outnumbered enough as it is, & then Sauron actually comes out!!?? Half the army would probably fall on their faces, and there would be no way you'd ever get the rest of the army to coordinate an attack, it'd be half the army on the ground and have the army staring in a state of shock. I don't see how they could best him if Sauron is still powerful enough to knock the best warrior there around (Aragorn).



So you think they'd be more keen to confront the guy who orders the Witch-King around?



Which is why PJ decided to hype up the Witch-King's role. So he wouldn't have to make something up on the fly & have Sauron appear.

I still think you are overplaying Sauron's strength. Most of his former power is locked in the One Ring. Yes, he would still be too much for anybody, but I wouldn't expect him to charge the ranks of Gondor. More likely, for most of the battle during the Siege of Gondor he would drive his servants and command the Nazgul before him. And when Rohan comes, he would be forced to retreat and rethink his battle plan. As mighty as he was, he couldn't withstand a hundred Rohirrim on horseback charging in his direction without the Ring.

[The Only Real Estel]

I agree with the majority of that, Mansun. Sauron probably wouldn't attack & he certainly wouldn't just wade in and start trying to go far into their ranks. But I'm not 100% sure that the Rohirrim would have the guts to rush him.

As to his strength, I quote an earlier part of the movies:

Sauron has regained much of his former strength. He can not yet take physical form, but his spirit has lost none of it's potency.

But it looks as if we'll have to agree to disagree, because I don't want to fill up the next three pages with us talking about this.

Originally Posted by The Only Real Estel

I agree with the majority of that, Mansun. Sauron probably wouldn't attack & he certainly wouldn't just wade in and start trying to go far into their ranks. But I'm not 100% sure that the Rohirrim would have the guts to rush him.

As to his strength, I quote an earlier part of the movies:



But it looks as if we'll have to agree to disagree, because I don't want to fill up the next three pages with us talking about this.

Whether Rohan and their horses had the courage to rush Sauron is debatable. But what other choice would they have had? How fearful are the Rohirrim of Sauron? If they all charged in his general direction, I think Sauron would escape for a while pretty quick.

Originally Posted by The Only Real Estel

I agree with the majority of that, Mansun. Sauron probably wouldn't attack & he certainly wouldn't just wade in and start trying to go far into their ranks. But I'm not 100% sure that the Rohirrim would have the guts to rush him.

As to his strength, I quote an earlier part of the movies:



But it looks as if we'll have to agree to disagree, because I don't want to fill up the next three pages with us talking about this.

I agree for once, but the whole topic is moving and down to one's imagination and view of PJ's work of ME. The topic has been so thoroughly discussed that it has become exhausted.