Best Fighter

[Gil-Galad]

Speaking of the Battle under the trees... i thought that it was cool when Thranduil and Celeborn met in the midst of the forest and they joined forces together againest the orcs

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Allow me to insert a big wink. Remember, I'm not saying that I think Galadriel was the best fighter, I'm saying that if we're going by what chromosomes are saying, that that's what I would be saying.

The vague idea was that you would simply assume I knew what I was talking about and not make me defend my hastily written post.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

The following is an excerpt from a PM between myself and lord of dor-lomin. In the following quote, I was defending my post about Galadriel, as well as making a point about Eowyn:

Originally Posted by Feanor of the Peredhil

The idea of the post was that nobody is denying that Eowyn is awesome solely because of sex, we're denying that she's the best fighter solely because she's not. But then again, why not listen to estrogen once in a while? The idea of the thread is best fighter, which automatically makes most of the answers testosterone-induced. "Wow, he's the best because he killed forty trolls!" It's like hanging out with a bunch of middle aged hunters and fishermen. They all judge who is the best by the size of the kill, not by the difficulty in getting to it in the first place.

I thought it applicable enough to this discussion to post.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

So.....Pippin has a really good shot at being called Best Fighter? Because he's so small and weak which made killing hard for him.

That's like saying I'm the best guitarist in the world because I can play some decent tunes despite finding the actual playing really difficult. Unlike, say, Eric Clapton, for whom playing guitar comes so easily.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Pippen's definately not the best fighter, doofus, and you know it. You're just pushing buttons now.

I was thinking more the differentiation between Faramir and Boromir. Most people would classify them as tied somewhere. But Boromir was always the fighter, whereas Faramir did not love the sword for it's sharpness, and all the rest of that long metaphor. In order to boost his way to Boromir's level (which he did, taking over his dead brother's position), Faramir had to cope with his daddy-issues, with the death of his brother, with the fact that he doesn't even like to fight, and when you look at it in the end, he's still an awesome fighter.

I'm not saying that somebody who was born to fight (or anything else really) is not fantastic. I'm just saying that somebody who worked their butt off to get to the same level... I think is automatically "better".

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Ok, but Eowyn is nowhere near the level of the others on the list.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Sure, she's great. I'm not denying it. Heck, Eowyn's one of my favorite characters. But she's certainly not one of the best fighters. One of the most stubborn, sure; but one of the most careless as well. Being an emotional and slightly suicidal gal doesn't qualify you to rank with Aragorn, Gil-Galad, or those other guys for best fighter status.

Remember ^ ?

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

I was talking about her only because it chanced that she was the example I used. The PM was more to encourage discussion on judgement by use of other means besides kill count.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

So you're being bold and saying that Faramir was a better fighter than Boromir?

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

I'm saying that although Faramir could probably beat Boromir one time out of two (yes, I'm saying they're STILL tied), that because Faramir had to battle himself, and not just his enemies, to get that far, that I think he deserves more credit.