Tol-in-Gaurhoth (Isle of Werewolves)

[bilbo_baggins]

Originally Posted by Feanor of the Peredhil

But I do thank you for not wanting to name names... it shows good faith, and I shall return good faith with good faith.

Does this mean you won't kill me if you really are a werewolf?

bilbo_baggins

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Maybe.

Or it just means that I won't vote to get you lynched right away.

You know how these things go.

[Kuruharan]

...Where is the pan that was boiling?

Or it just means that I won't vote to get you lynched right away.

How charitable of you...

If I may venture an opinion.

I don't think that all this preliminary thrashing about is really doing anybody any good. I think it is best to wait until the phantom and Mithalwen post with their ideas before we all start randomly running about like a bunch of headless chickens. After all, they, along with poor Saucepan alas!, were right the first time. I think, in recognition of that, it is only fair that we give them first crack (or at least something vaguely approximating first crack) at the new situation. After they have expressed their views...then we can start randomly running about like a bunch of headless chickens.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

All quotes from the phantom:

Now, keeping that in mind, the primary suspects appear to be Fea and Anguirel. However, it is a known fact that werewolves kill their own families and dearest friends first, so that puts Fea in the clear since I, her very dear friend, am still alive.

My first qualm with this is that, as tp says, we've got the very dear friend thing going, and I know him well. Why would tp say something as obviously unfactual as that wolves prey on their families? He's brilliant. He knows better, or at least, should. Although he seems to be saying this to clear my name, I'm just having trouble seeing the phantom so blatantly wrong. It just doesn't happen. Which leads me to think that maybe it was a Freudian slip.

What's this, Fea? I tried to shift some guilt off of you onto Anguirel and then you poke a hole in my reasoning? It seems you are willing to protect Anguirel, even if it puts you at greater risk.

Take that thinking a little bit farther: it seems, my friend, that your willingness to protect me puts you at the most risk, given that I am currently at the top of the list of those under suspicion. Why would you be willing to protect me, although it may be for the simple reason of friendship? Given your intellect, I would think more that you would well know the danger this puts you in.

And for you people who are suspecting me... you big sillies. You know me better than that. The victim (Shelob) was mangled beyond recognition. That is not my style. If Shelob would've been found with absolutely no marks on her and with a taunting letter in her pocket, then I would be the primary suspect, but a messy bloody killing- uhg, definitely not me. I hate it when one of my cloaks gets stained.

Of course we know you better than that. That's why nobody in their right mind would suspect you. And, like I've said, you of all people would know that. Why in the world would your M.O. for a brutal crime be something that could be immediately traced to you?

This is all horrible evidence, and I admit that freely. But I still have this lurking suspicion. I'm am not accusing anybody... all I wanted to put in the open is that the phantom is not being his usual annoyingly accurate and makes-you-want-to-slap-him self. He usually thinks this sort of thing through.

I believe that Anguirel and Fea are both werewolves.

I believe that either the phantom honestly believes that I'm a werewolf, or he's trying to deflect the blame onto me when he knows perfectly well that he is the one we should lynch.

Just thoughts...

[Kuruharan]

I realize that I am asking for a statement of the obvious, but I'd still like to have it said just to make sure there are no misunderstandings on down the line.

I assume the necessary vote is five now...

Thanks.

[The Barrow-Wight]

You are correct, Kuruharan. With the village reduced to nine residents, five votes is a majority vote and enough to lynch someone.

[Firefoot]

mormegil, I do not understand your unfounded accusations of me. Yes, Anguirel did support me, though it was by no doing of mine. Perhaps he, being a werewolf, saw that there would be some value in keeping me around, or did not perceive me as a threat. Clearly this was not so as I myself helped vote him out. You might say that this was to cover my own skin, as bilbo_baggins suggested someone might do. But why would I do this if there was already some suspicion over me? Especially if we were, as you suggest, in league with Fea, who is also under a great deal of suspicion. After all, there are only three werewolves and many more villagers. If we supposed-werewolves were all in danger, would we not do our best to keep ourselves around? I thought so.

Back to Anguirel's support of me. It is clear that Anguirel was very insecure in his position as a werewolf. He did a great deal of thrashing around and blindly accusing and defending people. Perhaps he had some strategy that he thought would work, perhaps to confuse others as to his true allies? After all, why would he bring deliberate and obvious aid to both his own teammates?

I have done nothing to you, mormegil, to make you feel the need to thrash out at me. I have done very little accusing and none to you, and even that was more of commenting than accusing. My guess is that one of those whom I pointed out as being dangerous (Fea or phantom) is actually one of your werewolf comrades. Of course they would not attack me directly, but by having you do it, it would cover their tracks. I also notice that you did not actually vote at all; rather you originally wished Anguirel a pain-free death, which wish you then conspicuously changed after the fact to a wish for a painful beyond belief death. What better deal could you get? You didn't have to vote out one of your own, and you even got to make yourself look good doing it! I have yet to hear a convincing alibi from you, other than "I'm innocent!" Most of your work has been accusing others.

I do not wish to accuse you, but as you seem bent on accusing me, I am led to believe that your only reason for doing so is that you somehow feel threatened by me.

[the phantom]

Why would tp say something as obviously unfactual as that wolves prey on their families?

Not wolves necessarily- werewolves kill the ones they love. If you want it in writing, just look here at this plot summary of the 1994 movie "Wolf". It specifically mentions the fact that werewolves kill the ones they love, so don't even try to say that my statement was unfounded.

your willingness to protect me puts you at the most risk, given that I am currently at the top of the list of those under suspicion. Why would you be willing to protect me, although it may be for the simple reason of friendship? Given your intellect, I would think more that you would well know the danger this puts you in.

I protected you for a few reasons.
1 I was more sure of Anguirel than I was of you
2 I didn't want people to split their votes between you and Anguirel. That would have left open the possibility that neither of you would get lynched. I wanted to put forth one single clear-cut candidate to unite the other townspeople.
3 Since there was a chance, however small, that I was wrong, I wanted to kill Anguirel rather than you since you are such a good friend (no harm intended Ang, you're cool too ).

the phantom is not being his usual annoyingly accurate and makes-you-want-to-slap-him self

Yes I am. Ask the dead werewolf.

Here's a breakdown of who is left and what I think of them.

mormegil- fairly suspicious
the phantom- not a werewolf
Primrose Bolger- fairly suspicious
Firefoot- not too suspicious
Oddwen- a tiny bit suspicious
Feanor of the Peredhil- very suspicious
bilbo_baggins- not too suspicious
Kuruharan- not too suspicious
Mithalwen- not too suspicious

That's all I have time for right now. I will post some reasons why as well as more thoughts later on tonight (four or five hours from now).

[Primrose Bolger]

Poor Saucy! Sorry to say I thought badly of him and did think he might be one of the Werewolves.

I have to say that in the end, I was swayed by the phantom’s logic. He really was right about Anguirel. And I found him persuasive about Feanor of the Peredhil.

Perhaps we should go with his previous recommendation. Since Anguirel has been eliminated, let’s choose the phantom’s other choice, FotP.

I am saddened that anyone would think me a ravening beast . . . far from it . . . far from it . . . and that’s the truth . . .

-o- Primrose