Logical Ring-bearer?

[Bekah]

Bekah - No, Sam and Frodo did not wrestle for the Ring. You may be thinking of the time when Frodo collapsed and couldn't stop his own hand from trying to put it on and asked Sam to help him. Sam then took both of Frodo's hands in his and kissed them.

No, that wasn't the part I was thinking of. I was probably remembering the fight between Gollum and Frodo incorrectly, inserting Sam in there as well.

Corwyn - I agree that Iluvatar had a huge hand in the outcome of the Quest (and have a rather large bone to pick with him for putting Frodo through such misery on his impossible Quest) but if we just shrug our shoulders and point to Iluvatar when confronted with one of Tolkien's mysteries, we wouldn't have opportunities for such lively discussions!

Maybe not....but I think Corwyn has a point. Iluvatar was at work here, and remains at work wherever he is needed. But not everything can be attributed to Iluvatar's doings, or to the evil doings of Morgoth and Sauron.

But this isn't the place to get into the argument of which events are the cause of whose will.

Cheers,

~ Elentari II