Giggles

[Fingolfin II]

Originally Posted by Amrod the Hunter

Also,Frodo's walking to Mount Doom would have been much more interesting if there was some humor or something in that,for me,most boring part of the movie.

For me this was one of the most interesting and moving scenes in RotK. It highlighted the strength of Frodo and Sam's friendship, their perserverance and determination to achieve their goal, no matter what it costs them personally. For me, humour at this point would be utterly out of context and ruin the whole scene/s- it's meant to show a more serious side of the movie and thus would be ruined by any humour in that scene, as it is inappropriate for for that part of the movie. However, it's a personal feeling and people will obviously have differing opinions, which are all valid.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

But Amrod, no-one is saying that all humour should have been cut out. The point is that a lot of the humour was bad and inappropriate. If you are suggesting that Jackson should have inserted some silly 'cheap laugh' humour into that Frodo/Sam scene then I must utterly disagree with you.

[Amrod the Hunter]

I'm sorry,I said it wrong.I didn't suggest cheap humor in that part of the movie.I only said that that part was realy too long,and it end,for me,it was boring..Even the books have humor in them,because you always need something to make the readers laugh.And Gimli was more interesting in the movie than he was in the books.Leogolas,on the other hand,was weard-in TTT and ROTK he acts like a skater.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Gimli was more interesting in the movie? Methinks you will find hefty opposition to that sentiment.

I would posit that enhanced tomfoolery instead of grimness does not make the character more interesting.

I didn't think the Frodo/Sam part you mention needed humour either, but hey! whatever...

Not that I mean to pick on you Amrod but you are daring to cross into waters only previously challenged by The Saucepan Man, and look at the toll it's taken on him!

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I think that the point of this thread is to question the need for a humor (good or bad) injection every few minutes 'just' to make sure that the movies aren't too serious. In TTT and ROTK it seemed that PJ feared that the audience would rush out of the theater if more than five minutes elapsed without a Gimli giggle.

Please!

[The Saucepan Man]

Originally Posted by Eomer of the Rohirrim

... you are daring to cross into waters only previously challenged by The Saucepan Man, and look at the toll it's taken on him!

Well, that's a red rag to a saucepan-attired bull, if ever I saw one. So I am afraid that I shall have to press you further on a statement that you made a few posts above:

The point is that a lot of the humour was bad and inappropriate.

What exactly do you mean by the terms "bad" and "inappropriate"? Which particular instances of humour are you referring to? Why exactly do you consider them to be "bad" and/or "inappropriate"? "Bad" and/or "inappropriate" to whom? Just you? Right-thinking people (whoever they may be) in general? Tolkien fans generally? Or the majority of audiences? Or do you consider that there is some objective standard by reference to which they can properly be judged "bad" and/or "inappropriate"?

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Originally Posted by The Saucepan Man

What exactly do you mean by the terms "bad" and "inappropriate"? Which particular instances of humour are you referring to? Why exactly do you consider them to be "bad" and/or "inappropriate"? "Bad" and/or "inappropriate" to whom? Just you? Right-thinking people (whoever they may be) in general? Tolkien fans generally? Or the majority of audiences? Or do you consider that there is some objective standard by reference to which they can properly be judged "bad" and/or "inappropriate"?

I would not want to undertake the task of (1) defining humor or (2) defining bad or inappropriate humor. One laughs at what one thinks is funny, I guess.

I would question why certain 'allegedly' humorous scenes were added to the EE DVDs and were not fit for general consumption. My assumption has always been that the EE DVDs were for us - the Tolkien lovers. If this is the case (again, totally an assumption) then one would think that the additional giggle scenes would be appealing to an audience of 'us.'

Is this the case? Not for me. The drinking scene with Gimli and Legolas was just sooo funny that "I forgot to laugh" (thanks Gilda Radner).

Gimli ducking and weaving with the spirits of the dead? While watching I could not wait until the scene ended.

Not sure if Gimli's bumping of Legolas's bow in the 'Pirates scene' is classifiable as a humorous scene.

I will say that I liked the 'shall I get you a box' line at Helm's Deep, but can't remember if this were in the theatrical version or not (just wanted to say something positive about PJ ).

Not sure if this were available, but a compulsary poll of forum movie viewers would provide some information regarding "Tolkien fans generally."