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Old 04-15-2005, 11:09 AM   #1
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Arwen is the Evenstar. The necklace is the Evenstar Pendant.

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Not to complicate matters, but when Arwen has the vision of her son, she sees him wearing it.
They made a new one?
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It may only be a symbol of that the boy is a part of her.
That works, too.

Just wondering, but did anyone notice that in the book the necklace Arwen gave Frodo is described a lot like the Evenstar Pendant looks in the movie?

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Old 04-15-2005, 11:34 AM   #2
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Just wondering, but did anyone notice that in the book the necklace Arwen gave Frodo is described a lot like the Evenstar Pendant looks in the movie?
Yes I did notice that. I thought that maybe PJ had one of his "lets give this a huge part in the films" like he did with Arwen but that this time it pretty much worked, at least it stopped Arwen appearing every 2 seconds as it could be used to show that Aragorn was thinking about her.
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Old 04-15-2005, 01:11 PM   #3
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I thought it was a terrible part of a scene. Up there with The Avalanche of Skulls for ridiculousness.
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Tolkien Scene 64, The Mouth of Sauron

In scene 64 of RotK extended Aragorn is wearing the Evenstar, even though he was not in the riding away scene.
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Old 04-20-2005, 04:40 AM   #5
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In scene 64 of RotK extended Aragorn is wearing the Evenstar, even though he was not in the riding away scene.
Are you sure??? I'm sure he's not, but I'll re-check as soon as I get home!

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Just wondering, but did anyone notice that in the book the necklace Arwen gave Frodo is described a lot like the Evenstar Pendant looks in the movie?
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To me it doesn't make sense. Firstly it should've been given to Frodo. Anyhoo...
The only conclusion we can come to with Eldarion wearing the necklace is, I think, to say that it just shows that this is indeed her son. However this just confused me because I was awear that Frodo was given the necklace, so I really didn't (and still don't) get it at all. I just think that no-matter how much P-j claims to love/know Tolkien, sometimes he misses things or think's that somethings don't matter(or won't matter if changed). Obviously you can see the confusion this causes when it does indeed matter.
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Old 04-21-2005, 05:42 AM   #6
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Ok you were right, Assasin: I watched last night and it's clearly on view. Now this certainly confuses matters. How can you try to interpret something if you don't know whether it has happened or will happen or is just a vision which means nothing? I have no idea how to proceed... I think P-j has probably confused himself. He must have done if he's confused all of us so much.

Edit: What if it's supposed to show Sauron breaking Aragorns hope?
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Old 04-21-2005, 06:33 PM   #7
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I don't know. Sauron could have made it a part of the vision, and made Aragorn think it was real. That part of the scene did seem less "real" then the rest.
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