Quotes in other languages - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

paavo · 03-15-2005, 10:39 AM

as it happens I do not have the particular book at my hand.

I guess I'll just have to drag myself to the library...

Guinevere · 04-13-2005, 06:14 AM

I'll take a guess

Could it be:

"They are making songs which say that in his day the rivers run with gold."

Balin speaking to Bilbo about the new Master of Lake-town (right at the end of "The Hobbit")

Nilpaurion Felagund · 04-13-2005, 06:27 AM

Excellent find.

Your turn.

Guinevere · 04-15-2005, 03:39 AM

Thank you, Nil!

Quote:

Und du ........., wirst all die heimlichen Gedanken deines Geistes entdecken, und wirst erkennen, dass sie nur ein Teil des Ganzen sind und zu seinem Ruhm beitragen.

HerenIstarion · 04-15-2005, 06:10 AM

it took me a lot of effort to get this one, thanks, Guinevere

First to render it to

Quote:

And you ... you will find out the secret thoughts of your soul, and will know that only part of the whole exists and is its fame

and eventually learn that in fact, it was meant to be

Quote:

And thou, Melkor, wilt discover all the secret thoughts of thy mind, and wilt perceive that they are but a part of the whole and tributary to its glory

Guinevere · 04-15-2005, 03:13 PM

And I thought it might be too easy!

But in fact, the original is much easier to recognize, because of the "thou" and "thy".

(In a German Tolkien Forum where I also am a member, we a have thread "Zitateraten" as well. But the quotes are much harder to recognize, because when translated, the typical styles of the different races and characters are hardly recognizable anymore. Besides, there are 2 different translations which often cause confusion!)

HerenIstarion · 04-25-2005, 11:31 AM

I nurtured the great plan of providing you with something terribly hard in some obscure language, but, circumstances being what they are, settled for Russian again

Quote:

Da, ti videl ego na mgnovenie takim, kakov on na drugoi storone - odin iz moguchikh iz Pervorojdennikh

03-15-2005, 10:39 AM	#1
paavo Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Finland Posts: 426	thanks for the hint but... as it happens I do not have the particular book at my hand. I guess I'll just have to drag myself to the library... __________________ It seems to me that trying to live without friends is like milking a bear to get cream for your morning coffee. It is a whole lot of trouble, and then not worth much after you get it.

04-13-2005, 06:14 AM	#2
Guinevere Banshee of Camelot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 5,830	I'll take a guess Could it be: "They are making songs which say that in his day the rivers run with gold." Balin speaking to Bilbo about the new Master of Lake-town (right at the end of "The Hobbit") __________________ Yes! "wish-fulfilment dreams" we spin to cheat our timid hearts, and ugly Fact defeat!

04-13-2005, 06:27 AM	#3
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,312	Quite so. Excellent find. Your turn. __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

04-15-2005, 03:13 PM	#6
Guinevere Banshee of Camelot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 5,830	That's it! And I thought it might be too easy! But in fact, the original is much easier to recognize, because of the "thou" and "thy". (In a German Tolkien Forum where I also am a member, we a have thread "Zitateraten" as well. But the quotes are much harder to recognize, because when translated, the typical styles of the different races and characters are hardly recognizable anymore. Besides, there are 2 different translations which often cause confusion!) __________________ Yes! "wish-fulfilment dreams" we spin to cheat our timid hearts, and ugly Fact defeat!

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