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Old 03-08-2005, 08:53 AM   #1
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Do we need a 'go-between' for Melkor and Varsur? Perhaps not, if the Grawler were themselves the ultimate go-between. I'm sure they could find a way.
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Old 03-08-2005, 06:09 PM   #2
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Nilpaurion, if the Grawlar were discarnate then how were they linked with wargs. Was this simply a name given to them by Eru or did they indeed adopt the form of wargs which we now accept? Please, do not for a moment think that I am criticising you. I merely hope to get to the bottom of this great new discovery you have made!
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Old 03-09-2005, 02:09 AM   #3
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1420! Grawlar as Wargs?

Well, SamwiseGamgee, according to those Ainur who had the privilege of seeing a Grawla, their very spirits were in the form of Wargs. I don't know how that happens, but it simply does.

It is said the Morgoth made the evil Wargs in mockery of the faithful Grawlar.
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Old 03-09-2005, 08:57 AM   #4
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An old crackpot theory of extension suggests that spirits were extended, despite being immaterial. Now, in my class this theory has been attacked quite viciously, but I will do my best in researching the matter. Perhaps that crazy English scholar we were discussing had more wits than we gave him credit for!

Or maybe he was just influenced in his writings by The Warg and Warg Rider Appreciation Thread.
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Old 03-15-2005, 11:32 AM   #5
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Gangamel here! Nice to see Wargs getting such a healthy tribute!

I used to breed them in the Rhun Hills until they turned on us. I was away at the time, getting supplies for our colony. My faithful companion, Wargy was with me too. He was strong enough not to be corrupted by the others.

Ah, Wargy! He died some time ago and how I miss him. The people we slaughtered together. Now I am left to fester in the Hills by myself.

Maybe you know of other places where Wargs were bred?

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P.S. I have failed to live up to my name since the death of Wargy. I have fallen into a deep melancholy unheard of for Orcs.
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Old 03-16-2005, 03:52 AM   #6
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Gangamel, let me be the first to welcome you to the now world famous Warg and Warg Rider Appreciation Thread. It is not often that we have visits from an orc here at the thread, so let me extend a friendly hand to you on behalf of all hobbit-kind.
You are very privileged to have known this Wargy of whom you speak. Tell me, is he the same Wargy to whom Eomer has in past times referred? If so then tell us, was he really as sick and twisted as tales tell. Some have suggested he is the singlemost interesting case study one could have in wargs who went wrong.
Alas, now I must go. May you fester well, Gangamel.
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Old 03-16-2005, 06:39 AM   #7
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No, I am afraid it is not the same Warg. I named my warg in tribute to the illustrious Wargy. Although, my Warg was only half the Warg that Wargy was.

Many a man, dwarf and elf did we slay together, but we couldn't destroy entire armies like the real Wargy could.
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