I see Middle-earth - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

alatar · 02-28-2005, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Well, anyways I think it's funny.

That's cool. Might be random chance, but surely there are a few Tolkienists out there who've influenced names, etc - kinda like (Pittsburgh) Steeler fans who live in LA.

Glirdan · 02-28-2005, 04:01 PM

I agree with alatar. Maybe all of this is just coincadential, well, for the inn anyway. But the town Rohan? I think Tolkien was inspired by that town. But that's just my opinion.

Glirdy

P.S. Notice how its just you, AragornII and myself in the thread of "If they still had Gandalf."? Wish other people would join that.

Formendacil · 02-28-2005, 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glirdan

I agree with alatar. Maybe all of this is just coincadential, well, for the inn anyway. But the town Rohan? I think Tolkien was inspired by that town. But that's just my opinion.

Actually, "Rohan", like "Lorien", is a word with meaning in Tolkien's Sindarin. "Rohan" is a slightly softened (or whatever the technical term is) form of "Rochan", which means knight-land, basically. A knight is a "Rohir", as can be seen in the name "Elrohir". Tolkien MIGHT have had the town Rohan in the back of his mind somewhere when devising a name for the horsefolk, but I think that the name "Rohan" was chosen quite plainly for its meaning.

In case anyone asks, the reason that the Riders' country has a Sindarin name is that Rohan is the name given to the country in Gondor. In their own land, they call it the Riddermark (Rider-land, sorta....) and they call themselves the Eorlingas (Eorl-lings, people of Eorl).

Glirdan · 03-01-2005, 03:07 PM

You know, I never knew that before now, very interesting indeed.

Thinlómien · 03-02-2005, 06:44 AM

That's true about the name of Rohan - I didn't remember. It still - though it is elvish - might have been influenced by the little village...

alatar · 03-03-2005, 12:40 PM

One note that I'm in (almost) total agreement with Peter Jackson is where he states something like "we strove to get the scenery right."

Some of the places that he filmed were straight out of my head (the Shire, some general scenery like farms, woods, etc). The valley of Rivendell must have come from a someone's artwork as it was in my head too. Never pictured the 'last homely house' like PJ created it, though.

Anyway, I've not found many examples of elvish country (with the exception of Lothlorien) as it's hard to 'see' a place that otherworldy while sitting in this world.

Picturing Rohan as Tennessee and Gondor as some city by a river is much easier than seeing what Lothlorien looks like in Spring.

Celebuial · 03-08-2005, 07:51 AM

I used to walk to school through this cemetary every day. It had a big long road down the middle and there were trees on either side. The tops of the trees would cover the space above the road in the summer and It could get quite creepy. It always reminded me of The Road where Frodo is assailed by the Black Rider, especially when it's windy as all the dead leaves kinda blow up in the air. It looked exactly like it did in the film!

Once, when I was with my friend we saw a man standing right up on the top of this tree that had collapsed during a storm. He was moving with such ease and grace and he was 'clad all in green and brown'. We both stopped and looked at each other, certain that we'd just seen Legolas!!!

Ghazi · 04-23-2008, 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alatar

...there are a few Tolkienists out there who've influenced names, etc - kinda like (Pittsburgh) Steeler fans who live in LA.

I'm curious about the reference to orcs, oops, Steeler fans in LA and their similarity with Tolkienists.

Cleveland Brown

alatar · 04-23-2008, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghazi

I'm curious about the reference to orcs, oops, Steeler fans in LA and their similarity with Tolkienists.

Cleveland Brown

That's probably better handled via PM, but for the rest of the world, think that most would consider both Cleveland and Pittsburgh suburbs of Mordor (but at least we have a real football team

).

Eönwë · 07-10-2008, 11:05 AM

Well, last year I went to this place called Puzzle Wood, and it reminded of certain areas:

The Old Forest
The Old Forest 2
The Old Forest 3

Mirkwood

The Might · 07-15-2008, 08:36 AM

Ok, so when I read The Hobbit the first time in Romanian I was still living in Romania in my home town of Brasov. Perhaps some of you know of it, it is after all one of the most important cities of the country. Anyways, close to the city (about 40 km) there is a wonderful mountainous region called Piatra Craiului (King's Stone) and immediately after I visited it I not only fell in love with the region, but also imagined that is how the Misty Mountains might look like.
To give you an idea of what I am talking about, here are pictures of the area on the site of the region: http://www.pcrai.ro/engleza/fotografii.html

Actually, now that I took a good look at some of those pics, I've become quite melancholic and I miss seeing them in the distance. Anyway, if you ever happen to pass by (you can also find route info on that site), do make sure to check that out!

Rumil · 07-15-2008, 09:44 AM

Hi all,

Might, those are beautiful photos of the Romanian Misty Mountains!

Here's my local Barrow (near where I grew up not where I live now). Though it does have a bit of 'abandoned Hobbit hole' about it too,

http://www.jharding.demon.co.uk/inde...k/tinkwood.htm

02-28-2005, 04:01 PM	#2
Glirdan Energetic Essence Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Where Lark Nor Eagle Ever Flew Posts: 3,285	I agree with alatar. Maybe all of this is just coincadential, well, for the inn anyway. But the town Rohan? I think Tolkien was inspired by that town. But that's just my opinion. Glirdy P.S. Notice how its just you, AragornII and myself in the thread of "If they still had Gandalf."? Wish other people would join that. __________________ *I'm going to buy you a kitty, I'm going to let you fall in love with the kitty, and one cold, winter night, I'm going to steal into your house and punch you in the face!* Fenris Wolf

03-01-2005, 03:07 PM	#4
Glirdan Energetic Essence Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Where Lark Nor Eagle Ever Flew Posts: 3,285	You know, I never knew that before now, very interesting indeed. __________________ *I'm going to buy you a kitty, I'm going to let you fall in love with the kitty, and one cold, winter night, I'm going to steal into your house and punch you in the face!* Fenris Wolf Last edited by Glirdan; 05-29-2005 at 01:04 PM.

03-02-2005, 06:44 AM	#5
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	That's true about the name of Rohan - I didn't remember. It still - though it is elvish - might have been influenced by the little village... __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris

03-08-2005, 07:51 AM	#7
Celebuial Wight Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cardiff during term time/Leicester in the holl's Posts: 129	I used to walk to school through this cemetary every day. It had a big long road down the middle and there were trees on either side. The tops of the trees would cover the space above the road in the summer and It could get quite creepy. It always reminded me of The Road where Frodo is assailed by the Black Rider, especially when it's windy as all the dead leaves kinda blow up in the air. It looked exactly like it did in the film! Once, when I was with my friend we saw a man standing right up on the top of this tree that had collapsed during a storm. He was moving with such ease and grace and he was 'clad all in green and brown'. We both stopped and looked at each other, certain that we'd just seen Legolas!!! __________________ Ú cilith ‘war. Ú men ‘war. Boe min mebi. Boe min bango.

07-10-2008, 11:05 AM	#10
Eönwë Flame Imperishable Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Right here Posts: 3,928	Well, last year I went to this place called Puzzle Wood, and it reminded of certain areas: The Old Forest The Old Forest 2 The Old Forest 3 Mirkwood __________________ Welcome to the Barrow Do-owns Forum / Such a lovely place

03-03-2005, 12:40 PM	#6
alatar Doubting Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Heaven's basement Posts: 2,466	One note that I'm in (almost) total agreement with Peter Jackson is where he states something like "we strove to get the scenery right." Some of the places that he filmed were straight out of my head (the Shire, some general scenery like farms, woods, etc). The valley of Rivendell must have come from a someone's artwork as it was in my head too. Never pictured the 'last homely house' like PJ created it, though. Anyway, I've not found many examples of elvish country (with the exception of Lothlorien) as it's hard to 'see' a place that otherworldy while sitting in this world. Picturing Rohan as Tennessee and Gondor as some city by a river is much easier than seeing what Lothlorien looks like in Spring.

07-15-2008, 08:36 AM	#11
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	My own Misty Mountains Ok, so when I read The Hobbit the first time in Romanian I was still living in Romania in my home town of Brasov. Perhaps some of you know of it, it is after all one of the most important cities of the country. Anyways, close to the city (about 40 km) there is a wonderful mountainous region called Piatra Craiului (King's Stone) and immediately after I visited it I not only fell in love with the region, but also imagined that is how the Misty Mountains might look like. To give you an idea of what I am talking about, here are pictures of the area on the site of the region: http://www.pcrai.ro/engleza/fotografii.html Actually, now that I took a good look at some of those pics, I've become quite melancholic and I miss seeing them in the distance. Anyway, if you ever happen to pass by (you can also find route info on that site), do make sure to check that out! __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

07-15-2008, 09:44 AM	#12
Rumil Sage & Onions Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Britain Posts: 894	Local Barrow Hi all, Might, those are beautiful photos of the Romanian Misty Mountains! Here's my local Barrow (near where I grew up not where I live now). Though it does have a bit of 'abandoned Hobbit hole' about it too, http://www.jharding.demon.co.uk/inde...k/tinkwood.htm __________________ Rumil of Coedhirion

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