Tactical discussion: AFDS (anti-Fell Beast - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

The Only Real Estel · 02-13-2005, 11:19 AM

True, but they were giving them hell before that.

Essex · 02-13-2005, 01:18 PM

In the 'real' (i.e. book) scheme of things, weren't the Eagles Maiar or their equivilant? (sorry if I picked the wrong name). So I suppose they could give the Fell Beasts a good fight......

Beleg Cuthalion · 02-13-2005, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Essex

In the 'real' (i.e. book) scheme of things, weren't the Eagles Maiar or their equivilant? (sorry if I picked the wrong name). So I suppose they could give the Fell Beasts a good fight......

We couldn't really use the Eagles of Manwe because they're basically the representatives of the Valar and come and go as they will.

Maeggaladiel · 02-17-2005, 01:17 PM

Two words: Guided missiles.
Okay, okay, so they didn't have guided missiles. Cannons with chain-shots? No? Okay... How about trebuchets? No trebuchets? Sheez! What is wrong with you, Gondor!? What; you expect to defeat them with creative insults?!

All right, all right, I guess I'd say go for the wings. Their main advantages are their size and ability to fly. If we could shoot their wings with arrows or catapulted rocks, we could take them out once they hit the ground.

What would be really handy was if we could somehow attach strong ropes or wires to the arrows, then shoot them into the fell beast and tie him off. They'd have to be really strong, though, elsewise the beast would break free in a minute. If we could get a lot of ropes on one, we could pull it down to the ground and either behead it or set it on fire. We'd have the nasgul to look out for, though, so maybe fire would be the best bet. Get some of Denny's patented oil and dump it on the monster, then torch away, baby.

Did I just write three paragraphs about how to kill a fictional creature? *shakes head.* Man... I need a life.

~Maeg
I'm buying Gondor guided missiles.

Meneltarmacil · 03-03-2005, 07:49 PM

What we really need to find is a medieval equivalent of an anti-arcraft gun, and so I think this may work:

Take a ballista and mount it on a swiveling platform, then make it so it can be angled up and down. This should be able to take a Fell Beast out with one shot, providing Gondorian soldiers can aim the thing well.

Oh, as an alternative tactic one could try to shoot the ringwraiths on their backs with flaming arrows (as I recall, the Nazgul did not particularily like being set on fire...)

Bergil · 11-16-2005, 07:46 PM

No-one had an easy job of Killing them because no-one expected an air force. someone suggested an anti-air ballista, that might work. The suggestion of a bolas also holds water. But the best idea would be a trap. Lure 1 away from the others with an easy target such as a lone rider, seemingly a scout far from any help (the Nazgul seem very organized to me), then knock him out of the sky with the catapult you're hiding. This will also temporarily squish the Ringwraith.

Edit: the Fell beast will also be lured close to the ground

Tuor of Gondolin · 11-17-2005, 12:12 PM

If the Gondorians are good archers why not copy their
(in the book) going after the eyes of the Mumakil?

02-17-2005, 01:17 PM	#4
Maeggaladiel Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: The end of the world as we know it. I feel fine, incidentally. Posts: 500	Two words: Guided missiles. Okay, okay, so they didn't have guided missiles. Cannons with chain-shots? No? Okay... How about trebuchets? No trebuchets? Sheez! What is wrong with you, Gondor!? What; you expect to defeat them with creative insults?! All right, all right, I guess I'd say go for the wings. Their main advantages are their size and ability to fly. If we could shoot their wings with arrows or catapulted rocks, we could take them out once they hit the ground. What would be really handy was if we could somehow attach strong ropes or wires to the arrows, then shoot them into the fell beast and tie him off. They'd have to be really strong, though, elsewise the beast would break free in a minute. If we could get a lot of ropes on one, we could pull it down to the ground and either behead it or set it on fire. We'd have the nasgul to look out for, though, so maybe fire would be the best bet. Get some of Denny's patented oil and dump it on the monster, then torch away, baby. Did I just write three paragraphs about how to kill a fictional creature? shakes head. Man... I need a life. ~Maeg I'm buying Gondor guided missiles. __________________ "Wide ne bith wel," cwaeth se the geheirde on helle hriman.

03-03-2005, 07:49 PM	#5
Meneltarmacil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The bottom of the ocean, discussing philosophy with a giant squid Posts: 2,254	What we really need to find is a medieval equivalent of an anti-arcraft gun, and so I think this may work: Take a ballista and mount it on a swiveling platform, then make it so it can be angled up and down. This should be able to take a Fell Beast out with one shot, providing Gondorian soldiers can aim the thing well. Oh, as an alternative tactic one could try to shoot the ringwraiths on their backs with flaming arrows (as I recall, the Nazgul did not particularily like being set on fire...) __________________ I ♣ baby seals.

11-16-2005, 07:46 PM	#6
Bergil Wight Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: the Lepetomaine Gambling Casino For The Insane Posts: 157	prepare No-one had an easy job of Killing them because no-one expected an air force. someone suggested an anti-air ballista, that might work. The suggestion of a bolas also holds water. But the best idea would be a trap. Lure 1 away from the others with an easy target such as a lone rider, seemingly a scout far from any help (the Nazgul seem very organized to me), then knock him out of the sky with the catapult you're hiding. This will also temporarily squish the Ringwraith. Edit: the Fell beast will also be lured close to the ground __________________ I support...something.

11-17-2005, 12:12 PM	#7
Tuor of Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pennsylvania, WtR, passed Sarn Gebir: Above the rapids (1239 miles) BtR, passed Black Rider Stopping Place (31 miles) Posts: 1,548	If the Gondorians are good archers why not copy their (in the book) going after the eyes of the Mumakil? __________________ Aure Entuluva!

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02-13-2005, 11:19 AM	#1
The Only Real Estel Raffish Rapscallion Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Far from the 'Downs, it seems :-( Posts: 2,835	True, but they were giving them hell before that.

02-13-2005, 01:18 PM	#2
Essex Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Essex, England Posts: 886	In the 'real' (i.e. book) scheme of things, weren't the Eagles Maiar or their equivilant? (sorry if I picked the wrong name). So I suppose they could give the Fell Beasts a good fight......