New dudes and dudettes: Most annoying things about LOTR.

[Boromir88]

I don't find Faramir taking the ring to Osgiliath to make much of a difference. TTT EE explains Faramir a lot better and the reasons behind taking the ring to Osgiliath. And in the end he does make the decision by himself to let Frodo go. So, I don't see a big problem with that scene (besides the ringwraith).

For most of the things PJ gives an explanation for (check the appendices) and I find them quite reasonable.

[gorthaur_cruel]

A matter of interpretation, I guess. I always took this quote:

'But I am not such a man. Or I am wise enough to know that there are some perils from which a man must flee.

to be what I said it was. He says that he is wise enough to flee from certain perils, which shows that overall, he doesn't want the Ring.

The thing you're describing is merely that Faramir, of course, has a desire of the Ring, but forget to mention that his rejection is bigger than his desire. Thus, he is not 'tempted'. It's as if you were asked if you'd be given a large chunk of gold in exchange for being blind and deaf for the rest of your life. You'd want the gold, but you'd not have the gold if it means losing your sight and hearing. You don't have to think twice about it; you don't want it. In that way, Faramir is not tempted by the Ring; overall, he doesn't want the Ring.

Still, I can see how you can see it the other way. Like I said, a matter of interpretation. But even if movie Faramir was tempted to take the Ring, it was only for a split second. And in another attempt to flatten out and 'humanize' all the characters, Faramir falls to the temptation for quite a long time. What makes him different from Boromir? After all, he repents too, in the end.

...and Faramir's supposed to be one of Tolkien's favorite characters.

[Assasin]

I think the main reason Faramir was tempted for that moment, was because he wanted his father's love. His father wanted Boromir to get the Ring, he failed, so Faramir could prove better, and thus, win his love.

[Finwe-89]

Faramir was acting stupid. He respected his father... He didn't had to respect him! Denethor only really loved Boromir, cause Boromir was older and protected Osgiliath against Mordor. Denethor said only bad things about Faramir, but Faramir wanted that his father would think better about him. If I were Faramir... I should left my father for what he is... a men that has a heart of stone...

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

It's the strangest thing. I remember this discussion from so many other threads...

Didn't anyone find it annoying that Sauron was an eyeball?

Or that Gimli was a comedy character?

Or that the Balrog had wings!

[Neithan]

Yes Eomer all of these things annoyed me. Though I can hardly criticize PJ for the Balrog wings since it is not proven either way (at least not conclusively). Still I was somewhat disappointed with the Balrog. Much worse are the other things you mentioned. It is the gaping plot holes and the misrepresentation of certain characters (like Gimli and Faramir) that gets me. But all of these things have been talked about so much. One that I don't think gets mentioned enough is Elrond, there is definitely a difference between the two versions of him.

[Assasin]

Eomer, whenever I see the Eye I always think about eye drop commercials. It is rather annoying, I want to know how he can "talk" if he's just an eye ball, or does the Mouth of Sauron carry around a microphone and speakers? I think the balrog had added scariness with the wings. It kind of spread his fiery evilness all around.