Sage Hobbit movie advice for PJ?

[Tuor of Gondolin]

Yes. The Riddle Game would be a key part, of course, with PJ you never know, he might have Gollum tag along all the way to Erebor.

As for mark12_30 point, why not have Kevin Spacey as Elrond, after all, he can sing. (or Kevin Kline--- listen to credits at the end of "French Kiss").

[The Saucepan Man]

I read in the newspaper the other day that Jackson is planning on making a film of the book, The Lovely Bones, once he has finished on King Kong.

So it looks like we are either in for a long wait or a different director. Assuming that the legal wrangles are solved, that is ...

[Ainaserkewen]

I can't believe I just found this tonight! I had so much fun reading all the ideas. Screw Pete Jackson, you guys have the imagination to at least write the screenplay.

I just have a couple points because it's so much fun to make them.

Firstly, Orlando Bloom. Someone said eons ago that they'd prefer he was not Legolas, since the idea of the Mirkwood Prince being in this movie was so irresistable, because of the Leggie-lovers or whatever term was used. I have to say that no one else can play Legolas now. Darn-near impossible. However, we also must face the reality that whether we want him or not, Orlando Bloom is this grossly famous actor now. Would he do a movie that gave him such a small role as standing next to Alan Rickman (he was suggested) for 30 seconds, or getting drunk? Though he might do it for sentimental reasons, I'm sure whoever represents him has other ideas.

No Harry Potter actors should be used. Period.

10 year old Aragorn disguised as Estel would rock my socks. Those kind of nods, which take up virtually no time, would totally make up for changes they made in the movie itself.

Also, it was mentioned that Stuart Townsend, because he didn't get to play Aragorn, should play Bard or something. Stuart Townsend doesn't belong in any heroic movie...love him though I do, he's just too much of an anti-hero actor, and there are none of those in Tolkien's writing save perhaps Gollum.

Plus, if Mr. Townsend were in this movie, along with a sketchy Mr. Bloom, you can only imagine the undesirable fanfiction. *ahem*

EDIT: And Saucy, I was descouraged by your post, but hopefully we won't have to wait too long.

[Reg Pither]

Characterisation.

In LotR, PJ 'lessened' most of the characters from the book, making them less noble, less assertive, more selfish and more dishonest. However, in The Hobbit, almost all of the characters (even Bilbo himself) are selfish, spiteful and greedy, so PJ is going to have to go the other way and 'embiggen' them to get them to be more acceptable. But can he do it, or will he somehow make everyone even worse than in the book?

Just a thought...

[Elladan and Elrohir]

I'm going to go out on a limb and make the prediction that PJ will make The Hobbit after Lovely Bones. Sure, there's still the whole distribution issue to be cleared up, but it will be cleared up. You're talking multi-million dollars here. New Line will not be going out on a limb like they were with Lord of the Rings. This is absolutely certain to be a blockbuster hit, and unless Jackson's moviemaking skills take a huge dive, one of the best movies of the year. The distribution issue will be cleared up, mark my word.

Beyond the four principals from LOTR returning (Holm, McKellen, Weaving, Serkis), are there any other actors/tresses that should return? I know we'll say Bloom, but he wouldn't be significant to the story unless significant changes were made. Who else, and who should they play? Should Liv Tyler make a cameo appearance? And where should PJ's cameo be?

Another question. I believe, and others here agree, that Ian Holm should reprise the role of Bilbo. BUT, whether you agree or not, do you think Mr. Holm has a legitimate shot at the title role? I want you guys' input.

[Ainaserkewen]

Originally Posted by Elladan and Elrohir

BUT, whether you agree or not, do you think Mr. Holm has a legitimate shot at the title role? I want you guys' input.

I believe it was already run over somewhere that Mr. Holm doesn't want the role, he's nearing 70 is he not?

[Mithalwen]

Originally Posted by The Saucepan Man

I read in the newspaper the other day that Jackson is planning on making a film of the book, The Lovely Bones, once he has finished on King Kong.

So it looks like we are either in for a long wait or a different director. Assuming that the legal wrangles are solved, that is ...

I imagine PJ has probably more or less planned his Hobbit so he might do that first if he could .... I rather hope so because I love The Lovely Bones and rather dread what he would do to it given his taste for gore... Do the Hobbit PJ and give the Lovely Bones to Peter Weir........

And I still want Jason Isaacs to play Thranduil ... HP or not....

[Tuor in Gondolin]

"Beyond the four principals from LOTR returning (Holm, McKellen, Weaving, Serkis), are there any other actors/tresses that should return? I know we'll say Bloom, but he wouldn't be significant to the story unless significant changes were made. Who else, and who should they play? Should Liv Tyler make a cameo appearance? And where should PJ's cameo be?"
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I'd like to see John-Rhys Davies play Thorin Oakenshield. Give him
slightly different makeup (hopefully improved for him since the movie version
gave him (rashes?)). It would actually be easier to involve him more in The Hobbit
since doubles wouldn't be needed as much, since there are a number of
dwarves and Bilbo.
And assuming Smaug would be a combination of cgi and a puppet (like Jabba
in Star Wars), how about Sean Connery as his voice?

Incidentally, there's a quite interesting chapter on hobbits and The Hobbit
in Tom Shippey's J.R.R. Tolkien: Author Of The Century .

[Mithalwen]

It might be nice to have John Rhys-Davies in a cameo (Dain maybe?) but I don't see him as Thorin - Thorin is a much edgier Dwarf....

[Gil-Galad]

LOTR was good at finding and exposing some unknown actors, so i would expect the same for The Hobbit, but i wouldn't be dissapointed if i saw a lot of Irish actors being played as Dwarves, such as Ewan McGregor, or maybe William DaFoe

[Mithalwen]

Originally Posted by Gil-Galad

LOTR was good at finding and exposing some unknown actors, so i would expect the same for The Hobbit, but i wouldn't be dissapointed if i saw a lot of Irish actors being played as Dwarves, such as Ewan McGregor, or maybe William DaFoe

I am fairly sure that Ewan McGregor is Scottish .... and that would work better with Gimli's scottish accent....