Celebrian's Misfortunes

[Nukapei]

Originally Posted by Ainaserkewen

My question is Why? Why would orcs think to do these things if they altogether had no record of doing them before.

I'm with Ainaserkewen (if I'm interpreting what she's saying correctly, that is! ). I don't think the topic of this thread is would the orcs do something so despicable as rape. I think this is about did they. Just because they would doesn't mean that they did -- as Fordim Hedgethistle said in his last post (and which I hinted at in my original post), obsession with sex seems to be a major thing with our culture. Hence, the reason we'd think up something like rape as a means of torture (and also probably part, either consciously or sub-consciously, of the reason we're having this discussion in the first place). Again, the orcs probably would have, if they had thought of it! However, being as there isn't that much (comparatively) sex and love in the books, there's no guarantee that anyone who grew up in Middle-earth (especially as an orc!) with those standards would even think up such a thing.