what happened to the nine rings? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Boromir88 · 11-28-2004, 06:23 AM

I don't see how you could also interpret the quotes as Sauron held control over the ringwraiths. Each quote talks about holding the nine rings. It's specific, now if they said "Sauron held the nine" or "he controlled the nine." Then I can see interpreting it as either the rings or the ringwraiths. But none of them do, each quote specifically talks about the nine rings; not the ringwraiths.

gorthaur_cruel · 11-29-2004, 12:32 AM

The last two Nine Ring quotes could be interpreted the way you said, rutslegolas, but I don't think the first two or three quotes can. They pretty much say that Sauron held the Nine Rings. It would also make more sense...how else would Sauron hold power over the Ringwraiths when he lost the Ring that gives him the power to control them?

rutslegolas · 11-29-2004, 08:10 AM

Well Boromir could be right , but then if the Dark Lord held the nine rings,do you suggest that the ringwraiths obeyed the Dark Lord's orders because he had the possession of their nine rings??

But I think that when the Dark Lord gave the wraiths their nine rings they were corrupted and would listen to the Dark Lord even if he did'nt have the One Ring ,because as long as the Ring survived the Dark Lord had control over his wraiths .

Boromir88 · 12-03-2004, 08:54 AM

We see that the Ringwraiths aren't affective. They fail to get Frodo while he's in the Shire, they fail to get Frodo while he's on Weathertop, they fail to get Frodo wondering around in Mordor. We also see them fail against fighting Aragorn on Weathertop. Even Gandalf admits that he can not take on all nine by himself, they are tough opponents. Aragorn is able to take on five of them by himself, which suggests the Wraiths weren't at their full potential, maybe they didn't have their rings? Since they seem to not be at full "strength." This is just my own speculation though

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Gil-Galad · 12-03-2004, 06:17 PM

when the one ring was destroyed, the elvish rings lost its powers, so i would assume that hte nine rings would just be normal rings

11-28-2004, 06:23 AM	#1
Boromir88 Laconic Loreman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,521	I don't see how you could also interpret the quotes as Sauron held control over the ringwraiths. Each quote talks about holding the nine rings. It's specific, now if they said "Sauron held the nine" or "he controlled the nine." Then I can see interpreting it as either the rings or the ringwraiths. But none of them do, each quote specifically talks about the nine rings; not the ringwraiths. __________________ Fenris Penguin

11-29-2004, 08:10 AM	#3
rutslegolas Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: In Elven Lands of India Posts: 533	Well Boromir could be right , but then if the Dark Lord held the nine rings,do you suggest that the ringwraiths obeyed the Dark Lord's orders because he had the possession of their nine rings?? But I think that when the Dark Lord gave the wraiths their nine rings they were corrupted and would listen to the Dark Lord even if he did'nt have the One Ring ,because as long as the Ring survived the Dark Lord had control over his wraiths . __________________ If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with the bull - The Phantom.

12-03-2004, 08:54 AM	#4
Boromir88 Laconic Loreman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,521	We see that the Ringwraiths aren't affective. They fail to get Frodo while he's in the Shire, they fail to get Frodo while he's on Weathertop, they fail to get Frodo wondering around in Mordor. We also see them fail against fighting Aragorn on Weathertop. Even Gandalf admits that he can not take on all nine by himself, they are tough opponents. Aragorn is able to take on five of them by himself, which suggests the Wraiths weren't at their full potential, maybe they didn't have their rings? Since they seem to not be at full "strength." This is just my own speculation though . __________________ Fenris Penguin

12-03-2004, 06:17 PM	#5
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,734	when the one ring was destroyed, the elvish rings lost its powers, so i would assume that hte nine rings would just be normal rings __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

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11-29-2004, 12:32 AM	#2
gorthaur_cruel Haunting Spirit Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 92	The last two Nine Ring quotes could be interpreted the way you said, rutslegolas, but I don't think the first two or three quotes can. They pretty much say that Sauron held the Nine Rings. It would also make more sense...how else would Sauron hold power over the Ringwraiths when he lost the Ring that gives him the power to control them?