Headline News: We Have Hobbit Ancestors.... - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Fordim Hedgethistle · 10-30-2004, 05:00 AM

HI, you are not silly -- nor are you a creationist, if you believe that evolution has and is happening. Creationism holds that all life forms sprang into being in their current form 8 000 years ago.

I agree whole-heartedly that Darwinism deals with the how, and not the why. So did Darwin.

We really should leave it at that, however!

EDIT: H-I and Mark 12_30 (below) have raised the very good point of my judgemental language in the post in question. I have edited it slightly as a result. They are right: this is not a forum in which we should denigrate the views of others.

mark12_30 · 10-30-2004, 05:39 AM

Edit: Thanks, Fordie.

THE Ka · 10-30-2004, 07:26 AM

Oh, i just flip head over heels for topics like this!!!! I knew this would be found!

You guys don't know how happy i am now.

Anyway, i find it rather obvious that this would happen, since if you follow some of the finds pretaining to our ancestrial remains these figures keep getting smaller. It's just something i've noticed. Another thing is, i was talking to someone at a museum once (It was the Royal BC museum in Victoria, in the "First Peoples" Section... it seemed out of place.) and we spent somewhere around a hour discussing the fact that we might have even smaller ancestors... Hmm? Maybe we all are right about this.

Since the article made a reference to a tropical type climate, i thought i might contribute some of this "mythology"...

this is something from http://www.occultopedia.com/m/menehune.htm

Child of the 7th Age · 10-30-2004, 10:40 AM

Ka -

Many thanks for that reference to the three-foot Menhune in Hawaii. I am more familiar with the European legends so it's helpful to learn about such references in terms of other cultures.

Interesting stuff!

~Child

Birdland · 10-30-2004, 05:58 PM

Quote:

And the hobbits were managing some extraordinary things—manufacturing sophisticated stone tools, hunting pygmy elephants...

Hobbits hunt Oliphants. That would make Sam happy.

mark12_30 · 10-30-2004, 07:49 PM

Birdie?

BirdieBirdieBirdie?????

Hobbits also celebrate Birdie's return... WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT

Birdland · 10-30-2004, 08:03 PM

THE Ka · 10-30-2004, 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Child of the 7th Age

Ka -

Many thanks for that reference to the three-foot Menhune in Hawaii. I am more familiar with the European legends so it's helpful to learn about such references in terms of other cultures.

Interesting stuff!

~Child

oh, if you go to the home site (it might be the home link... i'm not sure) you'll find references from everywhere... i encourage you guys to check them out. very interesting. the Menhune (pronounced "Men-a-hue-ee"), are just something i remember my grandma telling me about when i was little. They've always been interesting in my mind. Also, for further reference on "myth" Hawaiian myth tells that the Menhune where on the islands before the Oceanic peoples arrived... basically, they came ashore and scarred them into the forest. Eventually they came out and helped the oceanic peoples how to use the resources of the island.

thanks for the comment on my user cp Child!

you are very kind... most people blackmail me with threats, then unfortunately leave names...

-THE Ka

Lush · 11-02-2004, 09:41 PM

Well, I always knew that certain Neanderthals have secretly thrived among us...But our Hobbit relatives have been a pleasant surprise. This gives me new ammunition for certain height-related jokes. Thank you.

Lalwendë · 03-04-2005, 09:26 AM

I've just seen an update to the news story about 'real hobbits' late last year. You can read it here, if you are interested.

10-30-2004, 05:00 AM	#1
Fordim Hedgethistle Gibbering Gibbet Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Beyond cloud nine Posts: 1,844	A clarification HI, you are not silly -- nor are you a creationist, if you believe that evolution has and is happening. Creationism holds that all life forms sprang into being in their current form 8 000 years ago. I agree whole-heartedly that Darwinism deals with the how, and not the why. So did Darwin. We really should leave it at that, however! EDIT: H-I and Mark 12_30 (below) have raised the very good point of my judgemental language in the post in question. I have edited it slightly as a result. They are right: this is not a forum in which we should denigrate the views of others. __________________ Scribbling scrabbling. Last edited by Fordim Hedgethistle; 10-30-2004 at 06:05 AM.

10-30-2004, 05:39 AM	#2
mark12_30 Stormdancer of Doom Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Elvish singing is not a thing to miss, in June under the stars Posts: 4,349	Edit: Thanks, Fordie. __________________ ...down to the water to see the elves dance and sing upon the midsummer's eve. Last edited by mark12_30; 10-30-2004 at 06:07 AM.

10-30-2004, 07:26 AM	#3
THE Ka Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: As with the flygja Posts: 1,403	Just some say on archaeology and the "Collective Memory" Oh, i just flip head over heels for topics like this!!!! I knew this would be found! You guys don't know how happy i am now. Anyway, i find it rather obvious that this would happen, since if you follow some of the finds pretaining to our ancestrial remains these figures keep getting smaller. It's just something i've noticed. Another thing is, i was talking to someone at a museum once (It was the Royal BC museum in Victoria, in the "First Peoples" Section... it seemed out of place.) and we spent somewhere around a hour discussing the fact that we might have even smaller ancestors... Hmm? Maybe we all are right about this. Since the article made a reference to a tropical type climate, i thought i might contribute some of this "mythology"... this is something from http://www.occultopedia.com/m/menehune.htm __________________ Vinur, vinur skilur tú meg? Veitst tú ongan loyniveg? Hevur tú reikað líka sum eg, í endaleysu tokuni?

10-30-2004, 10:40 AM	#4
Child of the 7th Age Spirit of the Lonely Star Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 5,133	Ka - Many thanks for that reference to the three-foot Menhune in Hawaii. I am more familiar with the European legends so it's helpful to learn about such references in terms of other cultures. Interesting stuff! ~Child __________________ Multitasking women are never too busy to vote.

10-30-2004, 07:49 PM	#6
mark12_30 Stormdancer of Doom Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Elvish singing is not a thing to miss, in June under the stars Posts: 4,349	Birdie? BirdieBirdieBirdie????? Hobbits also celebrate Birdie's return... WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT __________________ ...down to the water to see the elves dance and sing upon the midsummer's eve.

10-30-2004, 08:03 PM	#7
Birdland Ghastly Neekerbreeker Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: the banks of the mighty Scioto Posts: 1,751

11-02-2004, 09:41 PM	#9
Lush Fair and Cold Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: the big onion Posts: 1,770	Well, I always knew that certain Neanderthals have secretly thrived among us...But our Hobbit relatives have been a pleasant surprise. This gives me new ammunition for certain height-related jokes. Thank you. __________________ ~The beginning is the word and the end is silence. And in between are all the stories. This is one of mine~

03-04-2005, 09:26 AM	#10
Lalwendë A Mere Boggart Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: under the bed Posts: 4,737	I've just seen an update to the news story about 'real hobbits' late last year. You can read it here, if you are interested. __________________ Gordon's alive!

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