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Old 09-25-2004, 02:48 PM   #1
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We are steering slightly off topic, but let's get a few things straight here. The difference between Frodo's and Bilbo's situations is apparent. Bilbo gave up the Ring under less pressure than Frodo was under, and that includes when Frodo was at Bag End.

And Samwise was not immune to the Ring. Gimli would have been a logically good choice to bear the Ring with a Company to guide him, but I think the reasons Frodo was given the task are as follows; 1) he offered himself, and 2) the Wise, especially Gandalf, had that little voice in the head saying "Yes, go ahead with the Hobbit".
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Old 09-26-2004, 08:33 PM   #2
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I don't think there really is any logical choice for a person to take the ring into the depths of Mordor.

But maybe even though Gimli seems the most logical, he may not be. When Sauron made the rings, he had the dwarves in mind. He may not have succeeded in swaying the dwarved to begin with, but we don't know whether Gimli has the same resistance as his ancestors. However, when he made the rings he had no knowledge of Hobbits. Maybe that could be why the Hobbits tend to have this natural resistance. The Ring was designed to tap into a persons wants to sway them, yet the wants of the Hobbits are a type completely unknown to Sauron when he made the Ring.
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Old 09-27-2004, 03:22 PM   #3
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But maybe even though Gimli seems the most logical, he may not be. When Sauron made the rings, he had the dwarves in mind. He may not have succeeded in swaying the dwarved to begin with, but we don't know whether Gimli has the same resistance as his ancestors.
Good point about Sauron making the one ring, but very few dwarves ever sided with Morgoth or Sauron, despite what tales of men say. That's why I like dwarves so much, because very few of them were ever swayed, or assisted, "evil." So, I think Gimli would have that same resistance as his past ancestors.

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Very good point, I never thought of that before.
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Old 09-27-2004, 08:25 PM   #4
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Pipe Gimli bearing the Ring?

Heaven forbid! He would have killed Sméagol, then it's game over.

He wouldn't have the capacity to connect to Gollum's torments. Frodo did. The mercy formed from that connection was the key to Sauron's demise.
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Old 09-28-2004, 09:06 AM   #5
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Old 09-28-2004, 03:02 PM   #6
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Heaven forbid! He would have killed Sméagol, then it's game over.

He wouldn't have the capacity to connect to Gollum's torments. Frodo did. The mercy formed from that connection was the key to Sauron's demise.
Actually, Gollum trying to take the ring for himself led to Sauron's demise, not Frodo's connecting to Gollum's torments.
Also, if Gimli had the strength to resist the Ring, Gollum wasn't needed. Remember, Thror, his kinsman, was killed by Sauron. What better method for revenge then destroying the Ring, and therfore Sauron.
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