Civil War if Boromir survived?

[Snowdog]

Lets look at it from an earlier deviating point. Say Faramir was sent to Rivendell and Boromir stayed in Gondor. The possibilities widen here because there would be a good chance that Faramir wouldn't of tried to take the Ring from Frodo. But lets say Faramir met his death along the way defending the Hobbits, and later you would have Denethor and Boromir standing when Aragorn comes. Would Boromir stand with his father or see Aragorn for what he was and pledge allegience to him?

So many possibilities.....

[Lily Bracegirdle]

I think Frodo would have met Boromir in Ithilien, Boromir would have taken the Ring to Denethor, and the War would have been lost.

-Lily

[Boromir88]

Snowdog:

The possibilities widen here because there would be a good chance that Faramir wouldn't of tried to take the Ring from Frodo.

I wouldn't necessarily say that, this is my view. Faramir was able to refuse the ring for a lot of reasons in my mind, he was wiser, he learned from Boromir's mistake...etc. But, we have Faramir who tells Frodo "I don't want to see it, I don't want to hear about it, if it was lying on the road I wouldn't stop to pick it up." I believe if Faramir was thrown into the Council, instead of Boromir, he would have succumbed to it, just like Boromir. Boromir had to live for months, travelling with this little hobbit, who he thinks shouldn't have the ring, and it eats away at him, he has full knowledge about the ring, and he have to live with it for months, finally he breaks. Faramir, only a matter of days he is with the ring, plus he doesn't get to see it the way Boromir does, Boromir saw the ring at the Council, and it just consumed his mind, Faramir never saw it, he said he doesn't wish to see it, and never wants to see it. So, I think if he was stuck in Boromir's situation he too would have fallen to the ring, but that's just my opinion.

Lily:

I think Frodo would have met Boromir in Ithilien, Boromir would have taken the Ring to Denethor, and the War would have been lost.

You could argue that if it wasn't for Boromir trying to take the ring back at Amon Hen, the War would have been lost. If Boromir hadn't of flipped out on Frodo, Frodo would have never realized how the ring was effecting the Fellowship. Boromir was only the first of the Fellowship to succumb to the ring, and if Frodo stayed with the Fellowship, others would have fallen next. Eventually, everyone would have fallen. Boromir made Frodo realize the ring was tearing the Fellowship apart, and he had to leave before other members became a "Boromir."

[Zebedee]

I do not think Faramir would have taken the ring had he been in Rivendale. In Ithalian, he had the chance to take it, he could have gotten his father's respect, but he turned it down. I think that he would be able to resist, at least longer than his brother did.

[Tuor of Gondolin]

Interesting speculation of whether Faramir would have resisted longer then
Boromir. On the one hand, one reason daddy didn't take to Faramir was that
he was "a wizard's pupil." He was more of a scholar and generally a reluctant
warrior (to some extent perhaps JRRT patterned him after himself?), while
Boromir was more instinctive and concerned with the practical. But then again,
Gandalf, Galadriel, Elrond , and Aragorn were all afraid to take the ring
(Gandalf, it would seem, even for a brief time) so perhaps an
intellectualizing approach would be an ineffective curb on the ring's power to
corrupt. Then again, Aragorn and Gandalf were obviously in close proximity to
the ring all the way down to Moria and beyond without being overtly tempted.

Might Boromir have had a different ring view if he had known of Isildur's
repentence of taking the ring at The Gladden Fields?

Hmm. I guess I haven't a definitive view on B vs. F ring resistance.