Friends of Nimrodel: Tapestry of Dreams - Discussion

[littlemanpoet]

You're not doing anything wrong at all, Nuru. Sorry to lead you to think so - didn't mean to do that. Or maybe I did, but stand corrected. Yeah, that's probably more like it. You're right. Leafa, having been a wayfarer, would have had a non-Rohirric experience, which would lead her not to think the way Ædegard would; and Liornung, a traveler, would have adjusted his way of thinking to account for all the differences he has seen in his travels. The same kind of thing happened to the crusaders in the Middle Ages. They left Europe to fight the infidel..... they came back changed by their experiences, with a broader perspective. So yes.

On....the....other hand, there is still my point about modernistic ways of thought, in which in terms of the individual is automatically the way we think. It's not that people from the middle ages didn't realize they were individuals, but saw themselves as part of a whole; so much so that to be cut off from family and community was like being condemned to death. These days it just as often means "freedom". I hope that makes more sense.

[Nurumaiel]

lmp,
I was just talking about that with my mother today. Family loyalty, cultural loyalty, etc... something to keep in mind when writing any kind of story... in certain situations, such as the current one, it brings up conflict. Thanks for bringing this up, and I'll bear it in mind (especially in a current work, which has been struggling to find suitable conflict). I won't go too much farther for fear of straying off the topic of the RPG.

Helen, I forgot to mention in my last post that I am praying for your mother. I'm glad to hear she's doing well!

[alaklondewen]

I feel like maybe a short explanation of Erebemlin's behavior may be needed, especially since I have been gone lately and have not been able to bring him to this point in my posts.

Erebemlin is undergoing a lot of stress, as are the other members of the company. I've tried hinting at his ever growing irritation in earlier posts with Taitheneb. To this point, the other elf has been the only one to see anything changing, but with the return of Mellondu, he is snapping. His heart is broken with the disappearance of Amroth and unfortunately he is not dealing with it in an appropriate manner.

With that said, Erebemlin's sudden harsh speech toward Ædegard is not uncharacteristic, and I've been planning this kind of confrontation or outburst for sometime. lmp, feel free to push his buttons if you so choose.

[Imladris]

So is there anything that the Gondor troup should be doing? Also, what kind of symptoms will Gwyllion be experiencing in this comotose state do you suppose, LMP? More nightmares?

I hope your mum is okay, Bolco.

[mark12_30]

THank you! She is steadily improving, praise God, and thank you all for your prayers. And as much as my mom improves, my dad continues to cheer up... it's all good.

Thank you again, all, for your prayers. Hugely appreciated.

[littlemanpoet]

Thinking out loud here (so to speak ). Gwyllion and Mellonin are pawns in Tharonwe's control. As such, Gwyllion is unimportant, and he has little time to spare for her dreams. He started by giving her a potion to get her asleep in the first place, but once she was asleep, Thraonwe has been using his will and that alone to keep her asleep. It is not yet to his purpose to waken, for he does not want Aeron and company to become too hopeful. So as to symptoms of Gwyllion, she will begin to sleep more peacefully, but under duress, being asleep at the will of another. That will be a cause of stress on her person, so there can be symptoms of illness not unlike Frodo's from Weathertop to Rivendell, but nothing nearly so serious! Hope that helps.

Mellonin is in the same state, but there is something about her that has drawn Thraonwe's attention; he is not yet sure what it is, but it will come clear now during the next night, since Amroth and Mellondu have switched places, as it were. At that point he will have changed his mind and not returned her to Ravion and company, for it becomes clear that there is a connection between Amroth's group and this wandering band of wayfarers looking for a lost brother.

Tharonwe continues to give Nimrodel the same type of messages and dreams as always, but does so carefully, trying to avoid detection by the Elves from Lorien. (Don't ask me what happened to Falowik and Uien - that seems to be a dead issue which we must do without - it occurred to me just now because it certainly would have altered Tharonwe's strategies.)

Nevertheless, Tharonwe knows that he has already been detected via osanwe, and that it is a matter of time before the two parties discover each other..... unless he can force the wanderers back to Minas Tirith.

So the upshot seems to be that Tharonwe will follow Ravion's group south back into Gondor, leaving his swamp and the swamp beast behind. This keeps the Elves of Rohan at a distance, but increases Tharonwe's risk of being caught out away from the lands he controls and knows so well. Hmmm...... would he leave the swamp? It depends on what he can determine regarding Mellonin and Mellondu. So he's not sure yet, and the spinning of our plot will have an effect on his decision (if and how soon to return Mellonin to the others).

[mark12_30]

Soooo.... Mellonin is still captive, still miserably dreaming nightmares, and there's no release in sight? Oooo, Tharonwe is a rotten meanie.

Uh... *blinks*... time to go pray about what's next... ...Lord??