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Mithalwen · 08-31-2004, 01:12 PM

But they are going to Eressea ...They have finished their task.. Elrond and Celebrian will be reunited.... Frodo will be out of pain ...... - but obviously you see it in a different way ....... I like the last chapter and Gandalf being vaguely nice for once ....

Gil-Galad · 08-31-2004, 01:28 PM

Ode to Joy for Destruction of the Black gate...

Some song from Warcraft 3 "A call to Arms" for when the Rohirrim come to the battle, or anything Battle-related really

http://www.blizzard.com/war3/mp3s/ right at the bottom to download it...its rather interesting, it builds up to a point then it feels like reinforcments have arrived

Encaitare · 08-31-2004, 03:42 PM

Oh, now that I think of it I agree, Canon could definitely be used for the Havens. The sorrow of parting, followed up by the eventually peace and happiness Frodo and his companions find. Mithalwen is right, the positive resolution is very important -- it's what keeps the piece from being too dark.

Mithalwen · 09-01-2004, 01:07 PM

Well you inspired the thought really when you were talking about it before .... it is funny how one chord can change the mood.... although the canon is usually played without it's gigue ... that chord does give the sense of it being the end of a movement not the final end of the work ..... again quite appropriate for the havens ...as is the interplay of the instruments ..... the harmony ...there is tension but no discord no argument .... I might almost say that 3 violins could be the hobbits and Gandalf the cello holding it all together ... btu perhaps that is a step too far..

Encaitare · 09-01-2004, 01:18 PM

I don't think it's a step too far, I like that idea. Which three hobbits would you say? Frodo, Sam, and Bilbo?

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there is tension but no discord no argument

Very true. Each instrument is equally important and plays in accordance with the theme, without competition, as though they have this deeper understanding of one another as the characters truly do by the time they reach the Havens.

Mithalwen · 09-02-2004, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Encaitare

I don't think it's a step too far, I like that idea. Which three hobbits would you say? Frodo, Sam, and Bilbo?

I couldn't quite decide ... Maybe Frodo, Sam and Merry&Pippin ... who more or less speak with one voice here...

Encaitare · 09-02-2004, 06:29 PM

That could work, too. In my mind, though, I think it's still Frodo, Sam, and Bilbo, because they are the ones who sailed (although not then for Sam.)

08-31-2004, 01:12 PM	#1
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,463	But they are going to Eressea ...They have finished their task.. Elrond and Celebrian will be reunited.... Frodo will be out of pain ...... - but obviously you see it in a different way ....... I like the last chapter and Gandalf being vaguely nice for once .... __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

08-31-2004, 01:28 PM	#2
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,734	Ode to Joy for Destruction of the Black gate... Some song from Warcraft 3 "A call to Arms" for when the Rohirrim come to the battle, or anything Battle-related really http://www.blizzard.com/war3/mp3s/ right at the bottom to download it...its rather interesting, it builds up to a point then it feels like reinforcments have arrived __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

09-01-2004, 01:07 PM	#4
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,463	Well you inspired the thought really when you were talking about it before .... it is funny how one chord can change the mood.... although the canon is usually played without it's gigue ... that chord does give the sense of it being the end of a movement not the final end of the work ..... again quite appropriate for the havens ...as is the interplay of the instruments ..... the harmony ...there is tension but no discord no argument .... I might almost say that 3 violins could be the hobbits and Gandalf the cello holding it all together ... btu perhaps that is a step too far.. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

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08-31-2004, 03:42 PM	#3
Encaitare Bittersweet Symphony Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: On the jolly starship Enterprise Posts: 1,814	Oh, now that I think of it I agree, Canon could definitely be used for the Havens. The sorrow of parting, followed up by the eventually peace and happiness Frodo and his companions find. Mithalwen is right, the positive resolution is very important -- it's what keeps the piece from being too dark.

09-02-2004, 06:29 PM	#7
Encaitare Bittersweet Symphony Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: On the jolly starship Enterprise Posts: 1,814	That could work, too. In my mind, though, I think it's still Frodo, Sam, and Bilbo, because they are the ones who sailed (although not then for Sam.)