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Shade of Carn Dûm
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Are you kidding? Eowyn is Bad @$$! I have full confidence she'd kick Grima back to Isengard. Let's not forget she killed (half-killed) the witchking!
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In that scene from TTT with Eowyn and Grima near Theodred's death bed, when he 'sweet talks' to her (using some of Aragorn's words from ROTK, as it has been already remarked on this forum), don't you get the impression that she is almost about to give in? But then she suddenly recovers, as if breaking a spell. Grima surely had a way with words, and Eowyn was, although very courageous and noble, sad and lonely. So, I think MovieEowyn might, in an alternate universe, given in to Grima, in a moment of weakness, and be very angsty about it afterwards.
But, without her consent, I don't think he would have been capable of overpowering her. Even if he is stronger than her (which I doubt), she knows how to fight better than he does. Quote:
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Auspicious Wraith
Join Date: May 2002
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Remember that Grima was a Man of Rohan, not a cartoon gnome like movie-Grima. Anyway, Grima was extremely sly. He apparently poisoned Theoden remember? I'm sure he would resort to such devilry if he wanted to do the deed with Eowyn.
I don't think he'd ever pluck up the courage to do it though.
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Tears of the Phoenix
Join Date: Jun 2003
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As I recall, in both book and movie, Eowyn was the promised prize to Grima when Saruman killed Rohan. Therefore, maybe he was not expecting to overpower her himself but that grief would do it for him.
As Evisse pointed out, she was almost on the point of giving in (at least that's the impression I get) and that was when she was in grief. Cheers, Imladris
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Bittersweet Symphony
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: On the jolly starship Enterprise
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Response to Evisse...
You think it was just lust? You could be right, but I, ever the hopeless romantic, think it was a bit more than that, even if Grima's sense of love is extremely twisted. He actually understands her, more so than anyone else and I personally think he loves her spirit as much as her body.
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Blithe Spirit
Join Date: Jan 2003
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I found the 'almost giving in' scene in the film extremely distasteful and I think Tolkien would have hated it.
As for being offered to Grima as a prize when Rohan had been destroyed, BookEowyn would, I feel fairly confident, have fallen on her own sword before being dishonoured in such a way. And may well, of course, have finished Grima off while she was at it. |
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Raffish Rapscallion
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Far from the 'Downs, it seems :-(
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If Eowyn had ready access to a sword, no doubt she'd have Grima's head on the floor quicker than you can say 'nice try', but if she had no sword it could well be a different story. I'll agree that she is 'Bad @$$', I'm not taking that away from her, I just find it hard to believe that she could've bested Grima through brute strength. Again, I'm not trying to take anything away from Eowyn. Quote:
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