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Bêthberry · 07-14-2004, 10:14 AM

Yes indeed the ignoble beast was named 'Jo.' And that being the main question, why, I shall answer the rest myself, seeing as Squatter is not here to fulminate upon vehicles of the combustible engine kind.

Carpenter claimed that 'Jo' knocked down part of a dry-stone wall on a trip to visit Hilary Tolkien. Edith apparently refused to ride in Jo after that.

But the report I found the most illuminating was Carpenter's claim that, in order to make his way through busy main streets and onto side streets in Oxford, Tolkien would plough into the intersection crying heroicly to Jo, "Charge 'em and they scatter!"

Rather Rohirric of him, don't you think? Oxfordians should perhaps be thankful he decided to give up ownership of automobiles.

The driver's seat is now yours, Mariska Greenleaf.

Mariska Greenleaf · 07-15-2004, 02:28 AM

Thank you, BB!

What title did Tolkien himself prefer instead of "The return of the King", which according to him, gave it all away?

Estelyn Telcontar · 07-15-2004, 06:05 AM

He preferred 'The War of the Ring' - I would agree that it would have been better.

Mariska Greenleaf · 07-16-2004, 02:25 AM

So do I. The floor is yours, Estelyn!

Estelyn Telcontar · 07-18-2004, 10:31 AM

Which dialect of Middle English was Tolkien's specialty in his linguistic studies?

Bêthberry · 07-18-2004, 10:58 AM

I believe it was the West Midland dialect of Middle English, Estelyn.

Estelyn Telcontar · 07-18-2004, 11:20 AM

Absolutely correct, Ms. Bêthberry! Your turn...

07-14-2004, 10:14 AM	#1
Bêthberry Cryptic Aura Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 6,003	Yes indeed the ignoble beast was named 'Jo.' And that being the main question, why, I shall answer the rest myself, seeing as Squatter is not here to fulminate upon vehicles of the combustible engine kind. Carpenter claimed that 'Jo' knocked down part of a dry-stone wall on a trip to visit Hilary Tolkien. Edith apparently refused to ride in Jo after that. But the report I found the most illuminating was Carpenter's claim that, in order to make his way through busy main streets and onto side streets in Oxford, Tolkien would plough into the intersection crying heroicly to Jo, "Charge 'em and they scatter!" Rather Rohirric of him, don't you think? Oxfordians should perhaps be thankful he decided to give up ownership of automobiles. The driver's seat is now yours, Mariska Greenleaf. __________________ I’ll sing his roots off. I’ll sing a wind up and blow leaf and branch away.

07-15-2004, 02:28 AM	#2
Mariska Greenleaf Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Dublin Posts: 1,036	Thank you, BB! What title did Tolkien himself prefer instead of "The return of the King", which according to him, gave it all away? __________________ I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand.- Confucius.

07-15-2004, 06:05 AM	#3
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	He preferred 'The War of the Ring' - I would agree that it would have been better. __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

07-16-2004, 02:25 AM	#4
Mariska Greenleaf Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Dublin Posts: 1,036	So do I. The floor is yours, Estelyn! __________________ I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand.- Confucius.

07-18-2004, 10:31 AM	#5
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	Which dialect of Middle English was Tolkien's specialty in his linguistic studies? __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

07-18-2004, 10:58 AM	#6
Bêthberry Cryptic Aura Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 6,003	I believe it was the West Midland dialect of Middle English, Estelyn.

07-18-2004, 11:20 AM	#7
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	Absolutely correct, Ms. Bêthberry! Your turn... __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

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