A mystery within a mystery, involving Tom Bombadil. - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Rinfanawen · 06-29-2004, 12:48 PM

Well, while we're on the topic of where to find The Adventures of Tom Bombadil, I have a question. Is there more than one version of the poems? I own a copy of it that is called The Adventures of Tom Bombadil. It is said to contain 16 poems in it. My suspicion arose when Bombadil said:

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Perhaps the answer lies in the poem of The Adventures of Tom Bombadil, but I do not own a copy - because I don't have 300 dollars to buy one!

My copy came in a book with, I think, 6 other things written by Tolkien, and my mom got it for me for about $40.00. Is this the real version, or is there another version out there that I don't know about? I would really like to know if I have the real thing or not.

davem · 06-30-2004, 08:08 AM

Rinfanawen

Don't worry you have the right (& only) version.

Rinfanawen · 06-30-2004, 12:45 PM

Thanks, Davem. I guess I just somehow found a cheaper version of it. Lucky me!

piosenniel · 07-01-2004, 01:57 AM

Here is The Adventures of Tom Bombadil and Bombadil Goes Boating

I have them in a collection called The Tolkien Reader - this section being called The Adventures of Tom Bombadil and Other Verses from the Red Book - with lovely drawings to accompany them by Pauline Baynes.

The other poems included in this section are:

Errantry
Princess Mee
The Man in the Moon Stayed Up Too Late
The man in the Moon Came Down Too Soon
The Stone Troll
Perry-the-Winkle
The Mewlips
Oliphaunt
Fastitocalon
Cat
Shadow Bride
The Hoard
The Sea-Bell
The Last Ship

~*~

Other sections of The Tolkien Reader Collection are:

The Homecoming of Beorhtnoth, Beorhthelm's Son
Tree and Leaf
Farmer Giles of Ham

All preceded by:

Tolkien's Magic Ring by Peter S Beagle

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Here's a little review of the Tom Bombadil section:

Greenman Review

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You can get The Tolkien Reader at Amazon.com very inexpensively for the paperback new and even less expensive for a used copy.

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Rinfanawen · 07-01-2004, 07:46 PM

Why, thankyou, piosenniel, that was most helpful. I don't have most of those poems in my version, but it does include Sir Gwain and the Green Knight, Tree and Leaf, and Farmer Giles of Ham. There's one other, I think, but the name escapes me at the present moment. Perhaps I will take a look at some of these poems and see if I can get a copy of them. Thanks much, pio!

kboleen · 07-05-2004, 03:00 PM

My version is A Tolkien Miscellany. I got my copy from the SciFi Book Club so I know it is still out there. It contains Smith of Wootton Major, Farmer Giles of Ham, Tree and Leaf, The Adventures of Tom Bombadil, and Sir Gawain and the Green Knight. My copy is hardback published by SFBC Science Fiction Printing: June 2002 by arrangement with Houghton Mifflin Company.

ninlaith · 07-13-2004, 12:25 AM

I believe the significance of Tom Bombadil is to show character. I believe Tolkien wanted to have someone who could resist the ring and not be affected by it while others were being taken by the darkness. Amist all the chaos and despair there can always be one person who is not affected by change but does not have to be a key part of the adventure. Much like Sir Tolkien himself. Growing up during the industrial revolution was hard on him. However, Tolkien never really met up with the turn of the times eye to eye and always enjoyed peace and quiet and good tilled earth.

06-30-2004, 08:08 AM	#2
davem Illustrious Ulair Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: In the home of lost causes, and forsaken beliefs, and unpopular names,and impossible loyalties Posts: 4,240	Rinfanawen Don't worry you have the right (& only) version. __________________ “Everything was an object. If you killed a dwarf you could use it as a weapon – it was no different to other large heavy objects."

06-30-2004, 12:45 PM	#3
Rinfanawen Wight Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: On my knees... Posts: 136	Thanks, Davem. I guess I just somehow found a cheaper version of it. Lucky me! __________________ "The price for freedom is far more than the greatest amount of gold or jewels, yet it is rarely prized among those who have it." "Do what you can, while you can, and make it last forever." ~Rinfan~

07-01-2004, 01:57 AM	#4
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	Here is The Adventures of Tom Bombadil and Bombadil Goes Boating I have them in a collection called The Tolkien Reader - this section being called The Adventures of Tom Bombadil and Other Verses from the Red Book - with lovely drawings to accompany them by Pauline Baynes. The other poems included in this section are: Errantry Princess Mee The Man in the Moon Stayed Up Too Late The man in the Moon Came Down Too Soon The Stone Troll Perry-the-Winkle The Mewlips Oliphaunt Fastitocalon Cat Shadow Bride The Hoard The Sea-Bell The Last Ship ~~ Other sections of The Tolkien Reader Collection are: The Homecoming of Beorhtnoth, Beorhthelm's Son Tree and Leaf Farmer Giles of Ham All preceded by: Tolkien's Magic Ring by Peter S Beagle -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here's a little review of the Tom Bombadil section: Greenman Review -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You can get The Tolkien Reader at Amazon.com very inexpensively for the paperback new and even less expensive for a used copy.* -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside. Last edited by piosenniel; 07-01-2004 at 02:06 AM.

07-01-2004, 07:46 PM	#5
Rinfanawen Wight Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: On my knees... Posts: 136	Why, thankyou, piosenniel, that was most helpful. I don't have most of those poems in my version, but it does include Sir Gwain and the Green Knight, Tree and Leaf, and Farmer Giles of Ham. There's one other, I think, but the name escapes me at the present moment. Perhaps I will take a look at some of these poems and see if I can get a copy of them. Thanks much, pio! __________________ "The price for freedom is far more than the greatest amount of gold or jewels, yet it is rarely prized among those who have it." "Do what you can, while you can, and make it last forever." ~Rinfan~

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07-05-2004, 03:00 PM	#6
kboleen Animated Skeleton Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Northwest Florida Posts: 27	My version is A Tolkien Miscellany. I got my copy from the SciFi Book Club so I know it is still out there. It contains Smith of Wootton Major, Farmer Giles of Ham, Tree and Leaf, The Adventures of Tom Bombadil, and Sir Gawain and the Green Knight. My copy is hardback published by SFBC Science Fiction Printing: June 2002 by arrangement with Houghton Mifflin Company.

07-13-2004, 12:25 AM	#7
ninlaith Wight Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: in my hobbit hole Posts: 204	I believe the significance of Tom Bombadil is to show character. I believe Tolkien wanted to have someone who could resist the ring and not be affected by it while others were being taken by the darkness. Amist all the chaos and despair there can always be one person who is not affected by change but does not have to be a key part of the adventure. Much like Sir Tolkien himself. Growing up during the industrial revolution was hard on him. However, Tolkien never really met up with the turn of the times eye to eye and always enjoyed peace and quiet and good tilled earth.