Land of Darkness Discussion Thread - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

The Perky Ent · 06-28-2004, 04:38 PM

Awesome! This is soo kewl!

I'll get a post up ASAP!

Durelin · 06-28-2004, 06:56 PM

Aman and Captain of Despair - Jordo has fallen under your spell!

Do with him as you will. And I do hope I am not intruding...

-Durelin

Fordim Hedgethistle · 06-28-2004, 07:22 PM

This is actually a response to a PM from Alak about how I was coming up with the Black Speech lingo for Grash -- I thought that it might be a good idea to answer it on the DT just in case there were others wanting to use the B.S. and who desired to strive for some kind of consistency.

There is not, so far as I know, any source of the B.S. other than the two lines of the Ring verse that Gandalf gives us in the "Council of Elrond" so I'm making it up as I go. The only 'rules' I follow are lots of g's and k's and z's -- hard consonants, and unpleasant sounds. I have perforce invented some words so far though:

Krâzduk dakka, nit grankúl -- probably means something like "There is water (dakka?) and food (krazduk?) here; let's take (grankul?) some (nit?)"

grik -- also

fraz -- maybe

I'm not going to do too much of the Black Speech directly as it's really hard to come up with good sounding words -- but perhaps we can come up with a brief lexicon by the end of the game!

Himaran · 07-04-2004, 07:14 AM

Kransha:
Brór and Dwali have returned to the meeting place. Dorim is still somewhere out looking for the orc which just escaped in Sarin's last post.

Himaran

alaklondewen · 07-04-2004, 10:41 AM

Bethberry, would you mind slipping this into the end of your post #29? I would really appreciate it.

EDIT: HAVE PLACED THIS POST FOR YOU -- PIO

~*~*~*~

alaklondewn's post - Lyshka

Lyshka understood naught of the other woman’s words, but she saw strength and pride in her eyes. The Easterling would keep close to her as they would prove to be quite a challenge to overcome together. Following the other woman, Lyshka stepped out into the courtyard and witnessed the remains of the bloody scene.

Corpses littered the dusty ground, and the Easterling walked slowly through them winding her way around their bodies. Many were face down, knives protruding from their blood soaked backs. Others whose faces were shown…wore eternal expressions of anguish. Lyshka was not saddened by the scene, nor was she sick. She was more curious than anything. Taking her bare toe, she nudged one body just to be sure the hideous creature was not faking death and would pounce on her from behind and slash her throat. The Orc lay still, however, its expression remained unchanging.

Kneeling, Lyshka examined its clothing and searched for a weapon. A short broad blade still lay in its hand, and she pried it free to hold in her own palm. The knife was heavy in hand, but the handle fit well. Rising, the Easterling tossed the knife side to side, hand to hand, to get a better feel. She lunged forward and jabbed the empty air, then quickly threw a glance over her shoulder at the other woman…ensuring her actions were not seen.

The woman then searched for clothing. She quickly found a thick leather vest that tied at the breast. The garment was bulky on her small frame, but was satisfactory in length. A large gash had opened the lower back of the vest, but it covered her nicely. As nicely as any Orc garment could do.

Peeling the dark leggings from another body, Lyshka was soon in Orcish attire and ready for more action.

~*~*~*~

EDIT: My SAVE is filled. It is short, but I feel I was able to do much more in the above post to keep her active. I'm looking forward to what is to come.

Fordim Hedgethistle · 07-05-2004, 08:04 AM

Once again let me say it -- great posts everyone!

Grash has begun to marshall people back into the cellars as he (and I) would like to get the company out of the Tower sometime relatively soon. That having been said, there is no mad rush here.

Elves and Co ('Co.' means Durelin

): I like the current developments with your characters, but could you wrap this up within the next couple posts and have everyone return to the cellars? You can either have Grash and Aldor find you all and bring you down, or you can return on your own and meet the two Men as they come up the stairs looking for you. Either way is fine with me.

Nova -- We appear to be cross-posting in the game; I went ahead and put up my post, but will edit it as needed when yours is ready.

Everybody else -- You don't have to wait around on your typing hands for the rest of us to get back; we still need to gather up food and water, so perhaps you could give us a description of what sort of orc-fare we will have to live on for the next while? It might also be nice to see what the Dwarves and humans think of each other.

Novnarwen · 07-05-2004, 08:17 AM

Quote:

Nova -- We appear to be cross-posting in the game; I went ahead and put up my post, but will edit it as needed when yours is ready.

Yes, we did seem to cross post. However, as I hadn't finished mine at the time you posted, I just made the end so that it would fit with yours.. Or at least I think so. Anyway, I am, too, happy to edit if there is anything.

Also, I'm very happy for Grash, thinking that Rhând might be good after all.

Alak - A conflict would be rather neat. But at the time, Rhând will not be willing to confront anyone unless someone (in this case your character and Bêth's(?)) have something to threaten him with. Anyway, currently I have very limited computer access, so I don't know if I have time for much planning right now. But I'm very interested in what you have in mind, so I'll be PMing you when I have my computer back.

Reminder; I will not be able to post before Friday again. (If I'm lucky, I'll manage Thursday!)

Cheers,
Nova

Sarin Mithrilanger · 07-05-2004, 11:17 AM

Fordim- In your post Zuromor states that he lost his blade and needs another,but Zuromor still has the orc sword from before and had thrown a dagger that protruded from a corpse.

The Perky Ent · 07-07-2004, 06:49 PM

Everyone - Sorry I haven't posted. I have been away from a computer for medical reasons. I should, however, have computer access by Monday. I am still playing. Just give me time!

-Perky

Bêthberry · 06-29-2004, 12:38 AM

A wonderful crew of motley characters and an exciting game as well! I'm pleased to be gaming here with you.

My second post sets up some expectations that my character, a warrior who has not been cowed by her imprisonment, will seek an alliance with the other woman, Lyshka, but first she has a score to settle with this swinish Haradrim whose people sold her and others of her people into slavery. Aylwen, win Darash over or risk a first skirmish of disagreement! Or, Grash, solve the disagreement before challenges are laid.

Edit: I 'solved' the Black Speech dilemma by deciding that my character would refuse to speak the words of her captors. Fordim, in my first post, I imply that Grash knows Westron and has spoken it to Darash at times and in fact refused to use the Orc's name for her. Yet your most recent post suggests he does not know Westron well. Do you want me to change my first post? Let me know and I will forward the changes to Pio.

piosenniel · 06-29-2004, 02:01 AM

Here are some reliable reference links for the Black Speech:

Ardalambion

A Second Opinion on the Black Speech

~*~ Pio

alaklondewen · 06-29-2004, 08:45 AM

Bêthberry, I'm glad we are on the same page with the alliance of our characters. Lyshka will not trust any man for a very long time. I had started my post last night, so I edited and brought it to a close at the same point where Darash has stopped.

Pio, the links are awesome. Helpful and interesting...thanks.

Himaran · 06-29-2004, 12:45 PM

Kransha - it appears that your character is attempting to befriend Dwali and Dorim. If we are supposed to pair up and search for necessary items, than why not all three dwarves go together. Dwarven kind are known to be suspicious of other races, or at least favoring their own race.

After you (or Perky Ent) confirm this, I will fill in my save and have the three dwarves converse and head out. It seems that all three are pessimistic - should get along quite well!

By the way, Fordim, awesome game! Its always nice to work with a group of talented writers.

Himaran

Fordim Hedgethistle · 06-29-2004, 12:57 PM

Himaran -- Unless I'm very much mistaken, Kransha's post already has the three Dwarves out in the courtyard picking amongst the corpses looking for weapons and armour. I agree with you (and apparently Kransha) that the three Dwarves would stick together like this.

If you object to having your character moved out to the courtyard in this way, let me know and we can perhaps have Kransha edit(?). For my money, I think that this development fits with the story so far -- so if you don't object to Kransha's post, then feel free to go ahead and post a reply to Bror's introduction, and then give us a bit of a description of the Dwarves' conversation and what they manage to find in the courtyard.

BTW -- yes, this looks like it might be a very good game, doesn't it. It's like Billy Martin always used to say, "it all comes down to the talent in the field." I'm just happy that I haven't had to 'prod' people to post yet!

)

Himaran · 06-29-2004, 01:04 PM

Fordim - Ah. Aha. I didn't notice the mention of the courtyard. I have to get off now, but I will fill in the save tonight or tomorrow morning.

Kransha, Perky Ent: Its all cool, then!

06-28-2004, 04:38 PM	#1
The Perky Ent Maniacal Mage Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Setting sail for Umbar, with Firefoot at my side! Posts: 3,297	Awesome! This is soo kewl! I'll get a post up ASAP! __________________ 'But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.'

06-28-2004, 07:22 PM	#3
Fordim Hedgethistle Gibbering Gibbet Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Beyond cloud nine Posts: 1,844	The Black Speech of Mordor This is actually a response to a PM from Alak about how I was coming up with the Black Speech lingo for Grash -- I thought that it might be a good idea to answer it on the DT just in case there were others wanting to use the B.S. and who desired to strive for some kind of consistency. There is not, so far as I know, any source of the B.S. other than the two lines of the Ring verse that Gandalf gives us in the "Council of Elrond" so I'm making it up as I go. The only 'rules' I follow are lots of g's and k's and z's -- hard consonants, and unpleasant sounds. I have perforce invented some words so far though: Krâzduk dakka, nit grankúl -- probably means something like "There is water (dakka?) and food (krazduk?) here; let's take (grankul?) some (nit?)" grik -- also fraz -- maybe I'm not going to do too much of the Black Speech directly as it's really hard to come up with good sounding words -- but perhaps we can come up with a brief lexicon by the end of the game!

07-04-2004, 10:41 AM	#5
alaklondewen Song of Seregon Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Following the road less traveled Posts: 1,193	Bethberry, would you mind slipping this into the end of your post #29? I would really appreciate it. EDIT: HAVE PLACED THIS POST FOR YOU -- PIO ~~~~ alaklondewn's post - Lyshka* Lyshka understood naught of the other woman’s words, but she saw strength and pride in her eyes. The Easterling would keep close to her as they would prove to be quite a challenge to overcome together. Following the other woman, Lyshka stepped out into the courtyard and witnessed the remains of the bloody scene. Corpses littered the dusty ground, and the Easterling walked slowly through them winding her way around their bodies. Many were face down, knives protruding from their blood soaked backs. Others whose faces were shown…wore eternal expressions of anguish. Lyshka was not saddened by the scene, nor was she sick. She was more curious than anything. Taking her bare toe, she nudged one body just to be sure the hideous creature was not faking death and would pounce on her from behind and slash her throat. The Orc lay still, however, its expression remained unchanging. Kneeling, Lyshka examined its clothing and searched for a weapon. A short broad blade still lay in its hand, and she pried it free to hold in her own palm. The knife was heavy in hand, but the handle fit well. Rising, the Easterling tossed the knife side to side, hand to hand, to get a better feel. She lunged forward and jabbed the empty air, then quickly threw a glance over her shoulder at the other woman…ensuring her actions were not seen. The woman then searched for clothing. She quickly found a thick leather vest that tied at the breast. The garment was bulky on her small frame, but was satisfactory in length. A large gash had opened the lower back of the vest, but it covered her nicely. As nicely as any Orc garment could do. Peeling the dark leggings from another body, Lyshka was soon in Orcish attire and ready for more action. ~~~~ EDIT: My SAVE is filled. It is short, but I feel I was able to do much more in the above post to keep her active. I'm looking forward to what is to come. __________________ At last I understand why we have waited! This is the ending. Now not day only shall be beloved, but night too shall be beautiful and blessed and all its fear pass away! Last edited by piosenniel; 07-04-2004 at 12:29 PM.*

07-07-2004, 06:49 PM	#9
The Perky Ent Maniacal Mage Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Setting sail for Umbar, with Firefoot at my side! Posts: 3,297	Everyone - Sorry I haven't posted. I have been away from a computer for medical reasons. I should, however, have computer access by Monday. I am still playing. Just give me time! -Perky __________________ 'But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.'

06-29-2004, 12:38 AM	#10
Bêthberry Cryptic Aura Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 6,003	A wonderful crew of motley characters and an exciting game as well! I'm pleased to be gaming here with you. My second post sets up some expectations that my character, a warrior who has not been cowed by her imprisonment, will seek an alliance with the other woman, Lyshka, but first she has a score to settle with this swinish Haradrim whose people sold her and others of her people into slavery. Aylwen, win Darash over or risk a first skirmish of disagreement! Or, Grash, solve the disagreement before challenges are laid. Edit: I 'solved' the Black Speech dilemma by deciding that my character would refuse to speak the words of her captors. Fordim, in my first post, I imply that Grash knows Westron and has spoken it to Darash at times and in fact refused to use the Orc's name for her. Yet your most recent post suggests he does not know Westron well. Do you want me to change my first post? Let me know and I will forward the changes to Pio. __________________ I’ll sing his roots off. I’ll sing a wind up and blow leaf and branch away. Last edited by Bêthberry; 06-29-2004 at 07:46 AM.

06-28-2004, 06:56 PM	#2
Durelin Estelo dagnir, Melo ring Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,063	Aman and Captain of Despair - Jordo has fallen under your spell! Do with him as you will. And I do hope I am not intruding... -Durelin

07-04-2004, 07:14 AM	#4
Himaran Ash of Orodruin Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Thangorodrim Posts: 777	Kransha: Brór and Dwali have returned to the meeting place. Dorim is still somewhere out looking for the orc which just escaped in Sarin's last post. Himaran

07-05-2004, 08:04 AM	#6
Fordim Hedgethistle Gibbering Gibbet Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Beyond cloud nine Posts: 1,844	Once again let me say it -- great posts everyone! Grash has begun to marshall people back into the cellars as he (and I) would like to get the company out of the Tower sometime relatively soon. That having been said, there is no mad rush here. Elves and Co ('Co.' means Durelin ): I like the current developments with your characters, but could you wrap this up within the next couple posts and have everyone return to the cellars? You can either have Grash and Aldor find you all and bring you down, or you can return on your own and meet the two Men as they come up the stairs looking for you. Either way is fine with me. Nova -- We appear to be cross-posting in the game; I went ahead and put up my post, but will edit it as needed when yours is ready. Everybody else -- You don't have to wait around on your typing hands for the rest of us to get back; we still need to gather up food and water, so perhaps you could give us a description of what sort of orc-fare we will have to live on for the next while? It might also be nice to see what the Dwarves and humans think of each other.

07-05-2004, 11:17 AM	#8
Sarin Mithrilanger Animated Skeleton Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: In the library of Candlekeep. Posts: 31	Fordim- In your post Zuromor states that he lost his blade and needs another,but Zuromor still has the orc sword from before and had thrown a dagger that protruded from a corpse.

06-29-2004, 02:01 AM	#11
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	Here are some reliable reference links for the Black Speech: Ardalambion A Second Opinion on the Black Speech ~*~ Pio

06-29-2004, 08:45 AM	#12
alaklondewen Song of Seregon Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Following the road less traveled Posts: 1,193	Bêthberry, I'm glad we are on the same page with the alliance of our characters. Lyshka will not trust any man for a very long time. I had started my post last night, so I edited and brought it to a close at the same point where Darash has stopped. Pio, the links are awesome. Helpful and interesting...thanks. __________________ At last I understand why we have waited! This is the ending. Now not day only shall be beloved, but night too shall be beautiful and blessed and all its fear pass away!

06-29-2004, 12:45 PM	#13
Himaran Ash of Orodruin Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Thangorodrim Posts: 777	Kransha - it appears that your character is attempting to befriend Dwali and Dorim. If we are supposed to pair up and search for necessary items, than why not all three dwarves go together. Dwarven kind are known to be suspicious of other races, or at least favoring their own race. After you (or Perky Ent) confirm this, I will fill in my save and have the three dwarves converse and head out. It seems that all three are pessimistic - should get along quite well! By the way, Fordim, awesome game! Its always nice to work with a group of talented writers. Himaran

06-29-2004, 12:57 PM	#14
Fordim Hedgethistle Gibbering Gibbet Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Beyond cloud nine Posts: 1,844	Himaran -- Unless I'm very much mistaken, Kransha's post already has the three Dwarves out in the courtyard picking amongst the corpses looking for weapons and armour. I agree with you (and apparently Kransha) that the three Dwarves would stick together like this. If you object to having your character moved out to the courtyard in this way, let me know and we can perhaps have Kransha edit(?). For my money, I think that this development fits with the story so far -- so if you don't object to Kransha's post, then feel free to go ahead and post a reply to Bror's introduction, and then give us a bit of a description of the Dwarves' conversation and what they manage to find in the courtyard. BTW -- yes, this looks like it might be a very good game, doesn't it. It's like Billy Martin always used to say, "it all comes down to the talent in the field." I'm just happy that I haven't had to 'prod' people to post yet! )

06-29-2004, 01:04 PM	#15
Himaran Ash of Orodruin Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Thangorodrim Posts: 777	Fordim - Ah. Aha. I didn't notice the mention of the courtyard. I have to get off now, but I will fill in the save tonight or tomorrow morning. Kransha, Perky Ent: Its all cool, then!

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