PJ's Sauron

[Morsul the Dark]

Originally Posted by The Only Real Estel

If that part of your quote was serious, here's my response to it :

It showed how he got distracted, but it also was foolish. Sauron is all-seeing (nearly), & wouldn't have his sight concentrated in a beam like that for any reason. If they wanted to show that he was distracted, they could've just shown his eye swiveling towards the Gate. Just leave out the beam though, for gosh sake!

just because he is all seeing doesnt mean he sees everything at every second he was merelyy concentrating on one thing plus americans would have been to dumb to relize what was going on it the eye merely moved it was to build tention

[The Only Real Estel]

just because he is all seeing doesnt mean he sees everything at every second he was merelyy concentrating on one thing

Eh, really it's not worth taking over a thread just to argue between the two of us on a point, but here's my take on what you said anyway :

Of course he can't see everything all the time. If he could, he would've caught Frodo long ago. But he doesn't have a concentrated light beam that he points at people/places when he's thinking really hard. If he's concentrating on the orc army, than he could easily concentrate on the entire army, not 10 or 15 different ones every few seconds. Having his eye turned to Frodo/Sam, then swivel around to the Gate would work very well if the Director pulled it off correctly (which I'm sure he could/can). Anyways, if you really want to discuss it anymore, you can always PM me :/.

[Kath]

Ok Morsul the Dark I agree with what you said about building up tension and all but you can't say "americans would have been to dumb to relize what was going on it the eye merely moved"! Thats just cruel, especially since I'm sure there are many clever americans some of which visit this site.
But anyway I just reread this thread and somewhere there was a bit about a battle between Sauron and Aragorn. Is this actually true?

[Morsul the Dark]

first of all im american, and secondly if you knew the people i know youd understand i can justify that statement and i should have worded it differently that newbies would been confused for those of us who read the book we wouldve undewrstood what was going on newbies proably would have been confused then again legalos makes it quite clear with his "a diversion?" line i wasnt trying to be cruel.

Aragorn faces the Mouth of Sauron not Sauron himself if it were just sauron sauron wouldn't be a giant eye anymore.

Also I think PJ made the eye physical because in the book it works as just a figure of speech however in a movie you need to actually see a representation of what your up against otherwise it has no worth.

[The Only Real Estel]

But anyway I just reread this thread and somewhere there was a bit about a battle between Sauron and Aragorn. Is this actually true?

Like Morsul the Dark said, Aragorn will end up fighting the Mouth of Sauron in the EE. As rumour had it, PJ & co. were contemplating a fight between Aragorn & Sauron in RotK, but fortunately left it out. Perhaps that was only confused with Aragorn vs. The Mouth of Sauron, but either way, we're fortunate not to have had an Aragorn vs. Sauron matchup!

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

I wonder how they would have pulled off an Aragorn v Sauron fight as well as showing the Eye during the destruction of the Ring.

Newbies would be all - "So there's TWO Sauron's! One of them's an eye and one's a monster!"

I wonder. Maybe that's why they left it out, rather than because of the uproar on fan websites that has been suggested as an explanation for leaving out the fight.

[Boromir88]

Eomer and The Only Real Estel,
you two are cracking me up I couldn't have said it better myself.