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Old 06-02-2004, 01:00 PM   #1
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Sounds good to me.
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Old 06-02-2004, 01:09 PM   #2
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If we started a new thread per chapter that would keep things nice and tidy. Maybe the Wight would give us a new room all our own? And it would give the discussion longevity even if Newbies joined later. Why ever close a chapter discussion?
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Old 06-02-2004, 01:46 PM   #3
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A most excellent idea! I'm up for it....give me a good excuse to read LotR...again.
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Old 06-02-2004, 01:49 PM   #4
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I know theOneRing.net has chapter by chapter chats in their Hall of Fire, or at least they did. I participated in one-Minas Tirith (Book Five, Chapter One), so I could ramble on about Pippin a whole lot! There are logs of these chats by date on their Barliman's Hall of Fire page: Hall of Fire logs And also a Yahoo group that I haven't been to in a long time did this: the lotr_inklings . Their pages are public, so you can probably find their old discussions of chapter by chapter LOTR. I think they were going to do the Hobbit as well. I found some ages ago, a Yahoo group that was doing this with the Silmarillion, but I don't remember the name. The funny thing is that I'm almost finished re-reading the last two books of the trilogy again after starting in with the Uruk-Hai chapter in the Two Towers because I wanted to read about Ents on Earth Day and got sucked into the books yet again! But this is never a bad idea!

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Old 06-02-2004, 01:52 PM   #5
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This actually was attempted in the distant past here on the Downs. I was only able to find three of the five chapters that were posted before the project was abandoned, though there is evidence here that they all existed at one time.

Book I - Chapter 2

Book I - Chapter 4

Book I - Chapter 5

I link these as a curiosity only. I think it would be worth starting over and doing the read-along.

P.S. -- Isn't it interesting how the Downs' own history in many cases now lies in shattered, half-forgotten ruins?
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Old 06-02-2004, 02:01 PM   #6
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Thanks for those links, Underhill! I was just searching for the "Long-expected party" thread, with no success. Apparently it disappeared into the Void at some time.

I think a chapter-by-chapter discussion is a worthwhile idea and would suggest that a thread be opened here on the Books forum for each chapter. It seems to me that too much structuring would defeat the purpose, and I don't think it's necessary to have a new forum for the discussion. Newcomers could join in later, as is possible on all open threads here.
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Old 06-02-2004, 02:02 PM   #7
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Hoooray! Esty, you da best!!!

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This time through the book I'm going to sing as many of the songs as I possibly can.
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Old 06-02-2004, 05:16 PM   #8
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What an excellent idea, Fordim. I have been meaning to re-read LotR, having not done so in a while. I was planning on working through the Silm and the Hobbit first, but then again I did read them more recently.

Only problem is I'm not sure if I'll be able to restrict myself to one chapter a week as when I finish a chapter I tend to want to plunge into the next one straight away. Still, I suppose there'll be no problem in doing a bit of reading ahead and, in any event, we'll be spending time posting our thoughts between chapters.

While discussion topics for each chapter are a good idea, I don't think this should be too rigid since people may want to raise other issues, themes, questions etc that occur to them while reading too.

Anyway, count me in.
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Old 06-02-2004, 05:38 PM   #9
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Yes, to support the idea of our Man de la Saucepan, I believe we (I say, 'we' in hypothetical terms, but assume that it is a 'we' community) should shy away from letting this become starchy, uninteresting. There is yin and there is yang, order and choas. To use the name-changing Fun Forum as an example, we don't want mayhem, but we might want a bit of mirth, or else we'll be faced with very dry discussion.

We shan't keep it too ordered, just ordered enough to serve, so we get past 5 chapters and deeper. I'm eager to see what kind of things will be discussed, in way of theme, metaphor, chapter-relevant language (can't wait for 'Treebeard' in TT for discussion of the nature of literary ents, or Tom Bombadil's ever versed symmetry in FotR), and etcetera. It seems like this could be a very rewarding experience.

Well, to put it simply, bluntly, promptly, curtly, and flummoxedly, I'm in!

Fordim, perhaps thou shouldst a list compile, of members fine and never vile?
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I believe Percy Bysse Shelley might have something to say on the matter.
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Old 06-02-2004, 02:01 PM   #10
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I believe such a thread (or series of) would be a great contribution to all those who wish to learn. Since all my yearly commitments have dissapeared suddenly (ah, summer), I would be willing to involve myself in this, though I don't consider myself a great scholar. Now, as said above, we would have to be very careful about such a massive undertaking. The first few members should be, at least, temporarily dedicated, since we wouldn't want the subject to fall apart a few chapters in.

We have good management, and outside encouragement, and, I daresay, a new and steady stream of apt newcomers to help us through. I think the topic could succeed, and be 'bookmarked' as technical reference material. Newcomers and learners, students of Tolkein, might join to increase their knowledge and voice their thoughts, or just stand by and watch to learn more. It would be a great experience for me personally, since I haven't actually gotten to discuss Tolkien with others who are comfortable with astute conversations about it or any other of that manner of desirable subject. Exhilarating indeed!

Let us hear what our esteemed Barrow-Wight has to say on the matter.
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