What do you think will be in the EE?

[Lalaith]

*Denethor revealing that he has a palantir.

*Eomer discovering Eowyn on the battlefield.

I feel fairly confident about both of these.

[The Saucepan Man]

Expanded role of the Watchers at Minas Morgul?

I was hoping that this would be in the Extended Edition but, having watched the theatrical version on DVD the other day, I am now doubtful. Jackson avoided Sam using the Ring because he wanted the audience to think that it had been taken by the Orcs who had captured Frodo right up to the moment when Sam reveals it. So, assuming he wants to maintain this approach in the EE, Sam would have to use some other way of getting past the Watchers.

Perhaps a short battle with Aragorn, Legolas, Gimli, & the Dead Army vs. the Corsairs? That's not so likely, but it's still possible...

I recall reading somewhere that additional footage involving the Corsairs was shot. So I still think there's a good chance of the battle at Pelargir being included.

Denethor revealing that he has a palantir.

Denethor certainly has a line which suggests this (something about him being able to see more than Gandalf gives him credit for). But, if he did have a Palantir, I would have expected to see it in the Pyre scene. Mind you, I wouldn't object to new scenes being inserted here which are closer to the book, or at least ones which don't involve Shadowfax kicking Denethor into the flames.

I think that the others mentioned are all pretty likely. I was wondering whether the Mouth of Sauron will appear as the gates open (before Aragorn and co withdraw back to the main force) or whether this will happen once Aragorn's army is encircled. Watching the film again, the latter seems more likely.

Incidentally, I wonder whether the Mouth will have the Mithril Shirt, given that the Orc most likely to have carried it back to Sauron (Shagrat, I think), gets skewered by Sam.

[The Only Real Estel]

I was hoping that this would be in the Extended Edition but, having watched the theatrical version on DVD the other day, I am now doubtful. Jackson avoided Sam using the Ring because he wanted the audience to think that it had been taken by the Orcs who had captured Frodo right up to the moment when Sam reveals it. So, assuming he wants to maintain this approach in the EE, Sam would have to use some other way of getting past the Watchers.

I thought that Sam mainly used the Phial of Galadriel to break the will of the Watchers? Perhaps he had the Ring on, but I think PJ could leave that out of it & just have him use the Phial? Who knows...

*Eomer discovering Eowyn on the battlefield.

I'd have to say there's a good chance of that as well, sense it's in the trailer for the Original, plus someones got to find her to take her to the House,

One thing I'm not looking forward to in the EE is Aragorn killing the Mouth of Sauron. I'm not sure why, but I just don't like the sound or feel of it .

Another thing I'm looking forward to (which I edited into my first post, as I'm going to do with all the new ones that come to my mind):

*Aragorn killing the cauliflower-head 'orc', aka: 'Gothmog'. I can't wait to see the character that shouldn't have been in RotK get knocked off (especially after the rock missed him )!

[Essex]

Saucepan, your point on the watchers

I was hoping that this would be in the Extended Edition but, having watched the theatrical version on DVD the other day, I am now doubtful. Jackson avoided Sam using the Ring because he wanted the audience to think that it had been taken by the Orcs who had captured Frodo right up to the moment when Sam reveals it. So, assuming he wants to maintain this approach in the EE, Sam would have to use some other way of getting past the Watchers.

As Estel points out, he uses the phial. But (and this may well need another thread) the reason why Sam does not put on the Ring is that Jackson has made it/Sauron too powerful in all the three films. Whenever the wearer puts on the ring he is almost instantly 'seen' by Sauron (except for Bilbo 17 years earlier). For movie Sam to wear the Ring in Mordor would have been suicide. If properly done throughout the films, and handled differently, we could have had Sam wear the Ring. Sauron was hindered by his own darkness he created around the borders of Mordor (I paraphrased that last sentence very badly from the book!)

This changes the story dramatically for me. No Ring Bearing for Sam, no final trip to the West before he dies to see Frodo again. And indeed, movie Frodo left on the LAST ship to the West. (That's why Celeborn was on it as well)

Sorry for hijacking this thread......!

[Boromir88]

Lalaith,
I've read from a reliable source, tolkienonline.com, that Eomer doesn't cry over Eowyn or Theoden. The trailer shows Eomer crying over an older man with shoulder length hair, and I have read that is GAMLING. I sure as heck hope that it's not Gamling, if it is I might go mad.

Gothmog was actually mentioned in the books. He was mentioned as the Lieutenant, 2nd in command, behind the Witchking. My question is, why did Gothmog get more Screen time than the Witchking? Also, I believe Gothmog couldn't of been an orc because Sauron would of never trusted an orc to be the leader of his armies in place of the Witch King.

The Houses of Healing will be in the EE, along with the mouth of sauron, gandalf vs. the witch king, Saruman's fate. All that good stuff on what people have said, I just hope that Eomer doesn't cry over Gamling.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Ah yes, the Gothmog threads have been plentiful and heated!

I don't know about the rest of you but I cannot wait to see movie-Gothmog sliced apart by Aragorn.

What I'm particularly disappointed about is that the films don't include the banter between Gimli and Eomer regarding Galadriel and then Arwen. I think this example of humour from the book is a fine example of Tolkien-style humour. ("Then I must go for my axe.") Unfortunately, while most of the 'humour' does seem to revolve around Gimli, it is merely unfunny slapstick.

Despite the lack of this, I'm still hopeful that they will include the grand feast in Gondor at the end of the film. But will the Elves be there?

[The Saucepan Man]

I thought that Sam mainly used the Phial of Galadriel to break the will of the Watchers?

Ah, good point. I was getting mixed up. That's made me a lot more hopeful for some interaction with the Watchers.