Weapons of Middle Earth - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Elwe Singollo · 05-21-2004, 08:37 AM

Ah well we can't get everything right. I was right about the fact that Grond was not used by Sauron though so......

Lhundulinwen · 05-21-2004, 03:59 PM

I would have to say good old Sting. I would really appreciate my sword glowing when big ugly orcs were sneaking up behind me. Plus, none of the hobbits who used the sword died prematurely, and they are all on my list of top characters.

Meela · 05-21-2004, 04:36 PM

A Palantir, definitely. It counts as a weapon, doesn't it? I'd normally opt for a good old sword, like Narsil, because I like a weapon that's simple and old-fashioned strong. But I'd quite like a weapon with a greater power and wider effect.

**The Saucepan Man** · 05-21-2004, 06:37 PM

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I believe the mace Sauron so magestically throws warriors of the West around with is a movie invention.

A good invention in this case though, I think. It makes sense that Sauron would use a mace, given that his Mentor wielded just such a weapon, and one of great renown. Sauron was clearly rather taken with Grond, since he named one of his most devastating siege weapons after it.

Son of Númenor · 05-21-2004, 07:08 PM

I don't remember Melkor using a mace. Wasn't Grond a hammer?

I think the most interesting weapon in Middle-earth was Gurthang, because it was the only one that had any sort of personality. Anduril certainly had a great 'presence' when it was mentioned, but the doom that hung on Gurthang, its unique & mysterious origin, & its interaction with Beleg & Turin, made it the most fascinating to me.

However (to answer the initial question), I do not think I would rather wield it than other weapons of Middle-earth, because of Melian's proclamation to Beleg:

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There is malice in this sword. The dark heart of the smith still dwells in it. It will not love the hand it serves; neither will it abide with you long" (Silmarillion, "Of Turin Turambar").

I certainly wouldn't trust such a blade. If I had my choice of weapon (if we use the term 'weapon' in a very liberal sense to mean something used in the opposition of an enemy), I would choose Narya, whose power is not in might but in summoning the courage & kindling the valour necessary to overcome evil.

HerenIstarion · 05-22-2004, 04:56 PM

Indeed Grond was a hammer. But in the index to Silm 77 it is explained as 'great mace Morgoth wielded", so, probably, when used as a weapon, as opposed to its usage as a tool, hammer is akin to and maybe qualified under maces...

Son of Númenor · 05-22-2004, 05:11 PM

Ah, thanks for the clarification.

05-21-2004, 08:37 AM	#1
Elwe Singollo Haunting Spirit Join Date: May 2004 Location: Deep in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 88	Ah well we can't get everything right. I was right about the fact that Grond was not used by Sauron though so...... __________________ "Tears unnumbered ye shall shed; and the Valar will fence Valinor against you, and shut you out, so that not even the echo of your lamentation shall pass over the mountains." - The Doom of Mandos

05-21-2004, 03:59 PM	#2
Lhundulinwen Wight Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Wishin' and hopin' in the Shire Posts: 139	I would have to say good old Sting. I would really appreciate my sword glowing when big ugly orcs were sneaking up behind me. Plus, none of the hobbits who used the sword died prematurely, and they are all on my list of top characters. __________________ ~Just call on me, and I'm there. I'll always be your Sam~

05-21-2004, 04:36 PM	#3
Meela Denethor's True Love Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mirkwood. With Thranduil... swoon Posts: 2,049	A Palantir, definitely. It counts as a weapon, doesn't it? I'd normally opt for a good old sword, like Narsil, because I like a weapon that's simple and old-fashioned strong. But I'd quite like a weapon with a greater power and wider effect. __________________ 'The Hobbit' 1st impressions: 1. Thorin is hot... Oh god, I fancy a dwarf. 2. Thranduil is hotter. 3. Is that... Figwit! 4. Does Elijah Wood never age? 2nd: It's all about Fili & Kili, really. 3rd: BARD! OMG, Bard. Last edited by Meela; 11-22-2011 at 04:41 PM.

05-22-2004, 04:56 PM	#6
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	Grond Indeed Grond was a hammer. But in the index to Silm 77 it is explained as 'great mace Morgoth wielded", so, probably, when used as a weapon, as opposed to its usage as a tool, hammer is akin to and maybe qualified under maces... __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time!

05-22-2004, 05:11 PM	#7
Son of Númenor A Shade of Westernesse Join Date: May 2004 Location: The last wave over Atalantë Posts: 515	Ah, thanks for the clarification. __________________ "This miserable drizzling afternoon I have been reading up old military lecture-notes again:- and getting bored with them after an hour and a half. I have done some touches to my nonsense fairy language - to its improvement."

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