Friends of Nimrodel: Tapestry of Dreams - Discussion

[mark12_30]

WHen the two groups will meet... Good queston. Given that the Rohan group is on horseback and the Minas Tirith group is on foot, not for a while. I think (A) the Minas Tirith group will try to procure horses in Rohan or (B) they will beg or borrow some boats, down the Anduin (perhaps they will find Aragorn's boat on the Amon Hen side and Friodo's boat on the Amon Lhaw side...)

Anyway, 1000 years ago Nimrodel stopped by the stream of Gilrain (in south Gondor) because it reminded her of her own stream. There she fell into a long sleep and so "missed the boat". Erebemlin and Amroth will learn this and carefully search the length of the entire river. If the Minas Tirith group hasn't caught up yet, they will at that point.

For one thing, they will need Raefindan's dreams to find out more about what happened. Raefindan will be Amroth's key to learning the details of Mithrellas and Imrazor. From that he will deduce that Nimrodel was imprisoned with the dead. Then they'll go to Erech, and beyond, into the Paths.

The trip to Lorien and down the Anduin can be made in as little, or as much, detail as the game produces. Whether we waltz from Rohan to Lorien and down teh Anduin to South Gondor completely unmolested or battling every inch of the way, who knows? Time will tell. Perhaps there'll be a happy mix.

[mark12_30]

Hello Tapestry team,

I want to reiterate how much I'm enjoying this game; the character interactions are complex and therefore fascinating, the action/drama possibilities are wide-open, and I think the team is one of the best on the Downs. Go ahead, tell me I'm biased. I don't care.

So, what's next? Let's have some ideas? Ents and huorns at Fangorn? Orcs? Trolls? Dragons from the North Mountains????
And for Ravion's Rangers... A less than enthusiastic welcome in Rohan? Some sort of conflict as 'Ravion's bandits' traverse the Pelennor (hard to imagine...?) Ravion's personal enemies (does he have any?) Aeron's irate "benefactors"?

Let the imaginations run wild...

[Imladris]

Hey,

I was planning on having my next post to be about Aeron picking Gwyllion up. Do you also want me to bring the group to the village in that post (kind of like a forwarding post), or do you just want to have the individual members do their own posts bringing them to the village?

Did that make sense?

Cheers,
Istawen

[mark12_30]

We have lots of ground to cover so I think it's best to go ahead.

In general, if anybody has a reaction of "Hey, wait, I had something I wanted to do three posts back...!" then we can always paste it into a previous post. That's part of co-operating in a complex game. The writer who wants the pasting asks the writer who has the needed spot. Or, depending on the complexity, we can leapfrog; copy the post , add it in at the end, and then delete the original.

So when in doubt, people, surge ahead! I'm looking at the maps, now (making some zoomed-in maps of the ground we will be covering in this game) and I'm looking at between 1,500 and 2.000 miles.

That's on a par with Frodo's trip.

(If I sound a little surprised myself, well.....)

Travelling: IO went hunting on the net for rate of travel data. I found this much. PLEASE add your two cents worth, everyone! Nuru, you ride, don't you? How far could you go on horseback in one day?


On FOOT:
3rd infantry 25 to 30 miles daily;
polish atrocities: 25 to 30 miles daily
bad day: 12 or 15 miles daily
at 3 miles/hour, six hours is 18 miles; 8 hours is 24 miles

Frodo: averaged 17 miles/ day from Bag End to Rivendell? Referred to by mapmaker as "forced marches"...?


on HORSEBACK:
With horses swift as the wind (Mearas or Akhal Teke):
Probe, an emperor of Rome, is known to have been presented with an Akhal-Teke horse that could cover the distance of 150 kilometers a day for up to ten days in a row. (Translation... 1 km = 0.6211 miles ) 93.165 miles/ day. Good heavens, that's incredible!

Cavalry: 35 miles daily (which one? What nationality?)

As we know, the Magyars' main occupation was animal husbandry, especially horse-breeding. Their horses, relatively small but very strong, had great speed and stamina. Each soldier had 3 or 4 horses, riding them in turn so as not to overtire any of them. Thus the army was able to cover 25 to 30 miles daily for weeks,/22/ whereas the western knight-armies rode a maximum of 12 to 15 miles a day for only a few days.

In the year 937, a Hungarian army of 8-10,000 light cavalrymen rode 5,000 miles in ten months. Unmatched achievement in military history, Ferenc Julier, Magyar Hadvezerek.

American West: He marched with a large wagon train to carry forage for our horses, for we were to be gone nearly four months, and could not expect to find adequate pasturage along our route. We arose at 3 A. M., marched at 4.30, and halted for camp on the best water we could find, averaging thirty- three miles daily throughout the march.

[mark12_30]

Love these latest posts. Ravion's motley band is going to be a lot of fun!

[littlemanpoet]

Funny, this same topic came up at FWW (for those of you who want to know what that is, PM me). Here's what I wrote there:

I have an atlas of the journey from Hobbiton to Mordor. On 9/24 Frodo, Sam, and Pippin traveled 24 miles, stopping for supper and walking with Gildor and the Elves. They made 14 miles through the Midgewater marshes in one day (Oct. 3). On Oct. 18 Glorfindel pushed them through the night, on the East Road, and they made 30 miles on foot before they were allowed a 5 hour rest. Then they put in another 20 miles, on road again, the next day. Okay, that's something for on foot.

Hmmmm.... horses.....Wouldn't you know the maps are less helpful? I'm looking at Rohan. Gandalf's and Pippin's ride took 3 days and covered 300 miles. The march of the Rohirrim by horse from Edoras to Minas Tirith had them going about 60 miles a day. Hope that helps.

[mark12_30]

Profoundly quiet today... Are most of us busy Wednesday? (I have band practice.)

I've brought a suspicious dog towards Ravion's group, guessing that Gwillion will react fearfully. Imladris, is this right or does she love dogs fearlessly?

The dog seems to me just a foreshadow of things to come; he doesn't need to be a big deal. Or-- if somebody feels like making him a big deal, have fun.

It's quiet in Rohan... Anybody there?