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Old 03-17-2004, 11:47 AM   #1
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To be honest, I think people's perceptions of the cartoon depends on things such as their age, what level of CGI and so on they have been exposed to, whether they had seen PJ's ones first, attention span...and so on. I mean, that is the first time I had seen a cartoon from the 1970s and I've seen much better...and my attention span is not all it should be really. I saw FOTR first...I might have seen TTT as well actually, I can't remember. And all those airy fairy special effects got to me because they contrasted so greatly with the potatoe-ness of the Hobbits...but Essex is right, it is more faithful than PJ's. It's just that I seem unable to appreciate it...(I never got past the Hobbits leaving the Shire, as I recall). Anyway, I don't like animated stuff as a rule...I couldn't stand Fantasia for a start...(that would be because it both bored me and terrified me...interesting combination, no?)
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Old 04-29-2004, 08:08 AM   #2
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Old 05-04-2004, 07:42 PM   #3
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Ok I've seen the Hobbit and I think it's good for little kids. My mom had read us the Hobbit when I was little and then I saw the movie and as a six year old I thought it was great. And then there's the LOTR cartoon. Half animation/half live action. The bain of my exsistence.
My dad made me watch it when I was four, five, six something like that and it scared the crap out of me. I scare pretty easily and I cover my eyes in PG-13 war movies, it's kinda sad, but it happens. Anyways so this cartoon scared me and I refused to have anything to do with LOTR unless it was the Hobbit.
So right before the FOTR came into theaters (my parents were forcing me to go) I watched it again and laughed 'til I cried. Horribly stupid cartoon I spent ten years being scared of.
So what my point is is that the cartoons are horrible and very stupid, but they keep the main idea to the books. They're not the best, but I think if you're a little kid watching them won't totally ruin your views of LOTR books.
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Old 05-26-2004, 06:44 PM   #4
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I first saw the LotR cartoons a couple days ago on t.v.,........O My!!

That was very interesting to say the least, although I missed the Hobbit and ROTK comes on next weekend I think.It was very scary.

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3 - The S in Saruman. Who on Arda is Aruman?
I was wondering about that too. At first I thought maybe I had just heard it wrong,but unfortunately I Didn't.And his whole red-robe-thing he had going on just didn't work for me.They could've at least drawn him wearing a tye-dye robe.That would have been closer to the book than that.

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or maybe it was pantless Aragorn?
Okay this scared me very, VERY much.I thought for a minute that they were tan tights.

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Looking back, Red Indian Aragorn, Viking Boromir, Farmer Gimli and Clarence the cross-eyed Legolas are rather amusing
So you mean I wasn't the only one who thought Aragorn looked like an Indian?

I was kind of excited when it got to the part where Frodo got stabbed and they were heading to Rivendell, I thought I was finally going to see someones inteurpetation of Glorfindel.I was wrong.I was like alright I finally get to see Glor............Legolas??What??This isn't supposed to happen.This wasn't in the book.Apparently it was in the script though.
I also thought Gollum and Sam were both very tragic. Gollum's voice drove me nuts the whole time, and I never pictured Sam as a Half-Wit.
Treebeard was rather tragic too.That was bad.

I feel much relieved after letting that out.Over all I thought the film was very entertaining though.I plan on buying it sometime.

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Old 05-26-2004, 11:34 PM   #5
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Gosh, I finally saw this version on Cartoon Network last Monday, and all I have to say is thank gosh I didn't have to waste my money to rent it!

It was horrible, just plain dreadful, and awful (ok, maybe it wasn't that bad, but I am just letting my emotions spill out)

Now I had heard about it being bad, and the beginning started out okay (I thought Hobbiton, and Frodo looked fine), but once they introduced Sam (aka the Hunchback of Notre Dame in my opinion) I knew it wasn't going to be good. The main thing about this version (as many others have said) is the way the characters are shown on screen. I thought Aragorn looked like a mix between Robin Hood, and Conan the Barbarian (And I kept thinking that he needed a shirt), when I first saw Boromir I said "who's the Viking" (I didn't know that it was Boromir at the time), and then Legolas looked like the Prince from Swan Lake. I also thought that the Film's Elrond was terrible too, and Isengard... All I can say is "ugh".

I actually gave up on the film halfway through, but it was quite funny at times (the orcs! and Ringwraiths).
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Old 05-27-2004, 06:00 AM   #6
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The funny thing is the guy who played Legolas's voice was the same guy who was C-3PO in Star Wars, oh the work he's found since then. When I watched it with my friends last summer we started referring to Aragorn as Chief Joseph. Then we muted it and put in our own voice overs. It was really quite amusing.
The funniest thing is my dad owns that cartoon.
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Old 05-28-2004, 09:31 AM   #7
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I kinda liked the hobbit because I thought it was cute.

As for the Bhakshi version I remembered that the opening was okay but then it went rapidly downhill. I don't remember Sam though because everyone mentions it I can feel the image returning. *Shudder*

As for the orcs, they seemed very heavy considering the food they got couldn't make them that fat!

I remember watching the part where they cross the ford and the elf was riding towards them and i thought "Yeah Glorfindel!" I Couldn't have been more wrong, it was Legolas, what???? At least this prpaired me for PJ's version when it was Arwen who came.

So I do not want to watch it again, EVER!!!!
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Old 05-28-2004, 11:47 AM   #8
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they make Sam a bumbling fool in the cartoons, and on top of that, he looks like a woman
Pardon?! What an insult!!!

Anyway...I am proud to say that I finally managed to get all the way through watching the cartoon!!! *Curtseys*
Mind you, it was in German...my German teacher gives me LOTR stuff to bribe me to actually do German work in lessons- she's given me about 3 posters, a German LOTR sticker book thing and lent me the video of the cartoon in German. Couldn't understand much though- about one word in three actually... ...but I think the added novelty of not being able to understand a word was what managed to pull me through. So there you have it. I couldn't stand it in English, but I could cope with it in German...

I quite liked Galadriel as well...but I liked the way she changed in PJ's film more- might not have been too realistic, but then, ME is an imaginary place- and it worked better dramatically, IMO.

Oh, and it's nice to be back- I'm on study leave! Wahay! Downside- I had an English Literature exam today- ouch. My arm still aches!
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Old 07-30-2004, 07:31 PM   #9
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that movie was very very horrible I'm gladI didn't watch it until after I read the trilogy because I would never had read LOTR had I seen it before reading the book
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Old 07-30-2004, 07:37 PM   #10
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Are you sure about that? If you hadn't read the trilogy first, you'd never have known how far off the cartoon was, so it wouldn't have annoyed you half as much. I haven't actually seen the movie, though (heard plenty, not sure I want to see it, so it could possibly be bad enough to scare people off just by taking a mere glance at it ! Still, I think it's more possible than not that if I were in your place, I'd have gone ahead & read the trilogy anyway ...
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Old 07-30-2004, 07:43 PM   #11
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Well I saw PJ's FOTR first then read the trilogy then saw TTT then watched the cartoon so it was going against both the book and PJ's adaptation so perhaps I should give it some slack but the troll was merely a big football player and Saruman was wearing a red cloak oddly
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Old 07-31-2004, 04:16 AM   #12
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Does anyone else want to MST this?

I've been meaning to do it for nearly 6 months now, just never managed to get 'round to it.

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Old 08-02-2004, 02:41 AM   #13
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If you hadn't read the trilogy first, you'd never have known how far off the cartoon was, so it wouldn't have annoyed you half as much.
If the bakshi movie is ONE thing, then it is actually quite faitful to the story line of lotr/tt. It is FAR more faithful an adaptation than PJs versions. I've already gone through my reasons on this on one of the other threads we've had recently on this topic.

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I haven't actually seen the movie, though
if you get a chance, take a look at it. I personally don't think it's a bad movie as it is at least pretty faithful to the books, and was a good introduction to Tolkien to me, and made me actually read the books, as it did for Bungo Baggins above.

PS Jackson must of liked it as he knicked quite a few 'shots' from this film and used them in his own movie. (1/ ring falling down the rocks in the prolouge, 2/ shot of proudfoot sitting with his feet up at the party 3/ nazgul attack on the hobbits' bedroom in Bree)
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Old 08-02-2004, 06:40 AM   #14
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This is a good review of Bakshi's cartoon.
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