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Old 03-15-2004, 11:57 AM   #11
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All of which begs the question - does Illuvatar make use of the freedom of Men, or does he 'direct' their choices to make them do his will? Morgoth attempts to manipulate men - as with Hurin, when he controls what he sees happening to his family, but is Illuvatar equally manipulative?
Personaly, I do not agree with davem here. For the main reason that J.R.R.T was a Catholic, and Iluvatar is God. So, He beleves in the God given right of Free will to men. You may not be relidjous, but i am, and so was Tolkien, His Stories are in many ways related. It is unlikely that Tolkien would have ment Iluvatar to be manipulative.
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