The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum


Visit The *EVEN NEWER* Barrow-Downs Photo Page

Go Back   The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum > Middle-Earth Discussions > The Movies
User Name
Password
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Prev Previous Post   Next Post Next
Old 12-19-2003, 02:58 PM   #18
pandora
Haunting Spirit
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 60
pandora has just left Hobbiton.
Sting

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> I'd compare the book ending to movieBoromir tripping on a pile of leaves when chasing Frodo. Convenient, yes. Believable, not really. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>You might but there is a deeper meaning in the book's ending. The points made by the ending as written has several layers:<P>1. Evil destroys itself; it is self-destructive. Gollum's greed is his undoing.<P>2. Gollum falls because his entire mind is concentrated on the Ring. This is perhaps an allusion to the Fool of the Tarot cards who is depicted in the act of stepping off a cliff because he is looking up at his distant goal in the same way Gollum is looking up at the Ring. Even if (as seems likely) JRRT was not specifically thinking of the Tarot the idea of missing things of vital import due to being wrapped up in your own affairs is an ancient one.<P>3. It fulfills Gandalf's prophecy that Gollum would in the end be important. Holding the Ring while being pushed in is hardly a great Doom, is it? <P>4. Gollum is there because Sauron not only released him but also had him "rescued" from Rivendell. If he had held on to him Frodo would have failed unless Sam had intervened in some way. Regardless, Sauron unwittingly freed the creature, the very small pathetic creature that in the end destroys him. That's a great piece of literary irony.<P>5. Most importantly, pushing Gollumn (or Denethor, for that matter) suggests that murder is sometimes acceptable even when it is avoidable; Frodo's earlier mercy is shown to have been a thing of convenience, to be recinded when it became an obstacle to his ends. That's very definitely not what this story is about.<P>Note: I haven't seen the film; I'm just saying why this particular scene is not a weak point in the book and certainly not just a "throw away" notion that Tolkien had for an easy ending. In many ways it epitomises what Tolkien was saying and I can't imagine any fiddling with it being an improvement even it it appeals more to a modern and cynical audience who want to see people wreak their revenge on their enemies rather than forgiving them their sins.
pandora is offline   Reply With Quote
 

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:28 AM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.